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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maitre Du Donjon" data-source="post: 989560" data-attributes="member: 9645">The DM can tell the PC's that if they don't flee, they'll die. Why? Because the PLAYERS think that their characters can win the fight (metagaming) whereas the CHARACTERS, especially the intelligent or combat-wise members of the group, should realize that they are outmatched, and that a tactical retreat is in order. Of course, its the player's decision to heed on that tidbit of information...I must admit that our group (whomever is the DM) rarely flees. The one occurance where our whole groupe clearly understood we had to flee was when the DM realized that the encounter he had devised for us was uber-powerful. We were facing (this was AD&D 2nd Ed.), approx. at 8th level, a red dragon, an anti-paladin (the DM is an anti-paladin freak) of higher level, two wizards of our level and a couple of ogres. We were a wizard, a paladin and his griffon mount (died), a thief (died), a NPC fighter (died), a fighter-thief (teleported out with), a dual class bard-wizard and a wizard (teleported out also).Maitre D</blockquote>