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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 4746766" data-attributes="member: 4892">I was going to say I never brought morality into the discussion and then I thought to educate myself. I see that ethics and morals are synonymous at times and each has a myriad of meanings.My understanding was and the usage I perpetuate when I speak on the matter is that ethics are more absolute. Who gets to decide what is ethical behavior? Our society through its laws. So, to me, Illegal = Unethical.My understanding and usage of immoral is much different and that is why I avoid using the term. Who decides what is immoral? The individual. That is why moral debates IMO are useless. To me, immoral does not equal illegal by necessity, nor does something being illegal mean it is automatically immoral.So, under my personal definitions of ethical behavior I still hold that people downloading material illegally are acting in an unethical manner. But I geuss I could leave the term Unethical out of the discussion in the future and be clearer by using the term Illegal or explaining myself more clearly instead of using the term Unethical as a form of shorthand.</blockquote>