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<blockquote data-quote="Baron Opal" data-source="post: 4918863" data-attributes="member: 10433">I'm really tired of people denying that they aren't downloading libraries of books, music and movies from the internet so they can play without paying.*sigh*Here's the thing:I'm sure that there are several* people who are obtaining files just to give them the once-over, like browsing in a bookstore. I don't have a problem with that. I know that there are several* people who are obtaining files so that they don't have to pay for them. That I have a problem with.The number of files downloaded is so massive I find it disingenuous to hear that it has no effect on sales. For the PHB 2 the number of download is an order of magnitude greater than the books sold. Again, I'm sure there a number of people who just previewed it. Some downloaded it just to stash in a hard drive next to their copy of Corel Draw and Oracle that they never use either. I don't particularly like that, but they're an example of Imban's &quot;not a lost sale&quot;. Then there are the people who download it because they didn't want to pay retail price. They use the data and they found a way around paying for it. That's wrong. Those are lost sales. Photocopying a couple pages out of a book for reference out of a library? That's fine.Downloading an entire, just published text so that you don't have to pay the cover price? Not okay.Where do you think the line should be?* For some value greater than 1 and less than &quot;most&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baron Opal, post: 4918863, member: 10433"] I'm really tired of people denying that they aren't downloading libraries of books, music and movies from the internet so they can play without paying. *sigh* Here's the thing: I'm sure that there are several* people who are obtaining files just to give them the once-over, like browsing in a bookstore. I don't have a problem with that. I know that there are several* people who are obtaining files so that they don't have to pay for them. That I have a problem with. The number of files downloaded is so massive I find it disingenuous to hear that it has no effect on sales. For the PHB 2 the number of download is an order of magnitude greater than the books sold. Again, I'm sure there a number of people who just previewed it. Some downloaded it just to stash in a hard drive next to their copy of Corel Draw and Oracle that they never use either. I don't particularly like that, but they're an example of Imban's "not a lost sale". Then there are the people who download it because they didn't want to pay retail price. They use the data and they found a way around paying for it. That's wrong. Those are lost sales. Photocopying a couple pages out of a book for reference out of a library? That's fine. Downloading an entire, just published text so that you don't have to pay the cover price? Not okay. Where do you think the line should be? * For some value greater than 1 and less than "most". [/QUOTE]

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