Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
PDFs: Why are people anti-watermark?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3293171" data-attributes="member: 9053"><p>Since I'm one of the people who mentioned watermarking as a no-go for me in another thread, I thought I would reply to this one.</p><p></p><p>First of all, I don't deal in bootleg PDFs. Frankly, I'm really insulted by the connotation that someone who doesn't like watermarking would only be of that opinion if they were going to share or steal PDFs.</p><p></p><p>I BUY PDFs. For a long time my .sig had "I buy PDFs, just not those with DRM" in it, because that's the truth. Watermarking is a form of DRM, and I don't support it, and that's just about it.</p><p></p><p>I don't like watermarking, because I don't want a watermark on my printed pages, and I also don't want it because it gets us back to the notion that when I'm buying a PDF from a company, I'm actually only "renting the current presentation of the data." Frankly, that's nonsense. When I buy that PDF, I've made a purchase from you, I don't have something on loan from you.</p><p></p><p>Why do companies watermark? Because they believe it will help cut down on piracy. Does it? No way. If someone wants to pirate your book, they'll do it. I, on the other hand, and the guy giving you money, mostly because I want to support you and support the industry, and keep you writing. The people who are asking about watermarks before they buy a product aren't your problem: the folks that pirate your PDFs know how to take those out.</p><p></p><p>So here's the bottom line: you might think it's silly that I won't buy a watermarked PDF, or that I'm secretly pirating all of your books out onto bittorrent, but, frankly, <strong>I don't care</strong>. PDFs may not be a viable long-term business medium, which is too bad, because I think many companies out there are putting out some very interesting stuff. Still, I'll be...err...<strong>darned</strong> if I'll support a business practice that treats me like I'm a thief. There are ways that you can sell a PDF without any copy protection and still get customers to buy them: offer service and updates after the sale! In the long run, that's the only way we'll still see PDFs being sold in five years (if not sooner).</p><p></p><p>Oh, and I suppose you wouldn't mind if I put a time and date stamp on every page of your new copy of Complete Scoundrel, would you?</p><p></p><p>Sorry if that comes off as harsh, but this is a hot button issue with me. No offense is intended to anyone in this thread, but when I see "there's no good reason someone would not support watermarking if they weren't a pirate," it frosts my pumpkin! </p><p></p><p>--Steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 3293171, member: 9053"] Since I'm one of the people who mentioned watermarking as a no-go for me in another thread, I thought I would reply to this one. First of all, I don't deal in bootleg PDFs. Frankly, I'm really insulted by the connotation that someone who doesn't like watermarking would only be of that opinion if they were going to share or steal PDFs. I BUY PDFs. For a long time my .sig had "I buy PDFs, just not those with DRM" in it, because that's the truth. Watermarking is a form of DRM, and I don't support it, and that's just about it. I don't like watermarking, because I don't want a watermark on my printed pages, and I also don't want it because it gets us back to the notion that when I'm buying a PDF from a company, I'm actually only "renting the current presentation of the data." Frankly, that's nonsense. When I buy that PDF, I've made a purchase from you, I don't have something on loan from you. Why do companies watermark? Because they believe it will help cut down on piracy. Does it? No way. If someone wants to pirate your book, they'll do it. I, on the other hand, and the guy giving you money, mostly because I want to support you and support the industry, and keep you writing. The people who are asking about watermarks before they buy a product aren't your problem: the folks that pirate your PDFs know how to take those out. So here's the bottom line: you might think it's silly that I won't buy a watermarked PDF, or that I'm secretly pirating all of your books out onto bittorrent, but, frankly, [b]I don't care[/b]. PDFs may not be a viable long-term business medium, which is too bad, because I think many companies out there are putting out some very interesting stuff. Still, I'll be...err...[b]darned[/b] if I'll support a business practice that treats me like I'm a thief. There are ways that you can sell a PDF without any copy protection and still get customers to buy them: offer service and updates after the sale! In the long run, that's the only way we'll still see PDFs being sold in five years (if not sooner). Oh, and I suppose you wouldn't mind if I put a time and date stamp on every page of your new copy of Complete Scoundrel, would you? Sorry if that comes off as harsh, but this is a hot button issue with me. No offense is intended to anyone in this thread, but when I see "there's no good reason someone would not support watermarking if they weren't a pirate," it frosts my pumpkin! --Steve [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
PDFs: Why are people anti-watermark?
Top