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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6090229" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>Yeah - you have to have an internal aspect on your PC to play your PC as more than a playing piece. Players who treat D&D like a board game and their PC as a pawn... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /> - I really don't like being at the table with those guys, especially as GM - it sucks out all the fun for me. You have to <u>play the role </u>- it says so on the tin. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p></p><p>I just started a new campaign with six strangers, and I was worried I might get one of those guys, but no - all my players seem great, they know who their PCs are and identify with them. I have to say that I have never had a big problem with this in 4e though, only one player has ever been like that, and he's a longterm regular at the Meetup who plays all his PCs as pawns. I think 4e is very good at giving you pointers on 'thematic weight' for your PC - who are you, what do you care about, etc. I don't have a problem with pre-3e or Pathfinder Beginner Box either, but I have found some players with 3e or full PF kinda get lost in the crunch and see the character as very much a sort of purpose-built tool, rather than a person. Usually this is only a problem with experienced players, though - one reason to prefer newbies.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6090229, member: 463"] Yeah - you have to have an internal aspect on your PC to play your PC as more than a playing piece. Players who treat D&D like a board game and their PC as a pawn... :.-( - I really don't like being at the table with those guys, especially as GM - it sucks out all the fun for me. You have to [U]play the role [/U]- it says so on the tin. :devil: I just started a new campaign with six strangers, and I was worried I might get one of those guys, but no - all my players seem great, they know who their PCs are and identify with them. I have to say that I have never had a big problem with this in 4e though, only one player has ever been like that, and he's a longterm regular at the Meetup who plays all his PCs as pawns. I think 4e is very good at giving you pointers on 'thematic weight' for your PC - who are you, what do you care about, etc. I don't have a problem with pre-3e or Pathfinder Beginner Box either, but I have found some players with 3e or full PF kinda get lost in the crunch and see the character as very much a sort of purpose-built tool, rather than a person. Usually this is only a problem with experienced players, though - one reason to prefer newbies.:D [/QUOTE]
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