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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 611628" data-attributes="member: 725"><p><strong>@John&Will:</strong></p><p>No offense guys, but do you really expect that the largest part of your customer base is going to care that you pay your writers more? I think not! Most people turn a blind eye to child labor when they go shopping, do you really think that they are going to care wheter a 30 year old geek that still lives in his parents basement (;-)is not receiving the amount of money you guys think (t)he<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs up (y)" data-smilie="22"data-shortname="(y)" /> should receive?</p><p></p><p>Lets not forget, the consumer dictates what prices are acceptable and what are not, because it's pretty easy, if you think it's to expensive you don't buy it. But the consumer has another problem, if they can't get it easily, they won't buy it. Here in lies the problem, because Atlas just doesn't have the penetration that companies such as WotC or WW and affiliates have. Even a distribution group such as Osseum has a better penetration than Atlas (atleast in my (limeted) experience).</p><p></p><p>Then there is the retailer, although Atlas isn't an unknown name, it doesn't have the name recognition or popularity that some other D20 companies have. Thus they have to fight for shelf space and retailer budget (what did you think? that retailers had lots of money to spend? ;-) Guess what happens when the local retailers checks his order form for ordering this months new D20 releases and he has only a limited amount of expendables available? Yup the most expensive product with the least name recognition goes. And lets be honest The Bestiary ain't cheap!</p><p></p><p>I dig the art of the Infiltrator, but these two 'monsters' didn't scream BUY at me, maybe others think otherwise. The preview of The Monsternomicon on the other hand did scream BUY, as did the Eden monsterbook, too bad that the first isn't really available locally and neither is second, too bad...</p><p></p><p>Now don't get me wrong, i'm saying that it's bad, but it's size isn't really a big selling point at this price. Neither is trying to 'scare' us by telling that the book smells. Pointing out that you paid your staff decently doesn't mean squat to the average consumer. A "sorry guys, but this was the best we could do." is so much more appropriate, it still won't change the fact that it's expensive, but it's pretty direct ;-)</p><p></p><p>Good luck guys!</p><p></p><p>[edit]</p><p>ps. it might get you more customers if you made a promo pdf with all the creatures listed by name and CR and for each creature a single line of text that 'explains' the creature. I know it's a bit more work than posting a couple of pages directly from the book, both it would give people a bit more general feel of the book (and appropriateness for their campaign)...</p><p>[/edit]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 611628, member: 725"] [b]@John&Will:[/b] No offense guys, but do you really expect that the largest part of your customer base is going to care that you pay your writers more? I think not! Most people turn a blind eye to child labor when they go shopping, do you really think that they are going to care wheter a 30 year old geek that still lives in his parents basement (;-)is not receiving the amount of money you guys think (t)he(y) should receive? Lets not forget, the consumer dictates what prices are acceptable and what are not, because it's pretty easy, if you think it's to expensive you don't buy it. But the consumer has another problem, if they can't get it easily, they won't buy it. Here in lies the problem, because Atlas just doesn't have the penetration that companies such as WotC or WW and affiliates have. Even a distribution group such as Osseum has a better penetration than Atlas (atleast in my (limeted) experience). Then there is the retailer, although Atlas isn't an unknown name, it doesn't have the name recognition or popularity that some other D20 companies have. Thus they have to fight for shelf space and retailer budget (what did you think? that retailers had lots of money to spend? ;-) Guess what happens when the local retailers checks his order form for ordering this months new D20 releases and he has only a limited amount of expendables available? Yup the most expensive product with the least name recognition goes. And lets be honest The Bestiary ain't cheap! I dig the art of the Infiltrator, but these two 'monsters' didn't scream BUY at me, maybe others think otherwise. The preview of The Monsternomicon on the other hand did scream BUY, as did the Eden monsterbook, too bad that the first isn't really available locally and neither is second, too bad... Now don't get me wrong, i'm saying that it's bad, but it's size isn't really a big selling point at this price. Neither is trying to 'scare' us by telling that the book smells. Pointing out that you paid your staff decently doesn't mean squat to the average consumer. A "sorry guys, but this was the best we could do." is so much more appropriate, it still won't change the fact that it's expensive, but it's pretty direct ;-) Good luck guys! [edit] ps. it might get you more customers if you made a promo pdf with all the creatures listed by name and CR and for each creature a single line of text that 'explains' the creature. I know it's a bit more work than posting a couple of pages directly from the book, both it would give people a bit more general feel of the book (and appropriateness for their campaign)... [/edit] [/QUOTE]
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