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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 308126" data-attributes="member: 380"><p>I wanted to make sure, but according to the way in which the Penumbral Lord is written it only gains two spells with each level in the same manner a wizard does.  that means a first level Penumbral Lord who wants to make use of all of his new spell slots has one 0th level spell and one 1st level spell.  Combine this with the fact you need 7-8 levels of another spellcasting class just to qualify as far as I can tell, despite the PrC's claims to the contrary, a Penumbral Lord will never pull ahead in the level or power of spell he can cast in his specialty.  I'm beginning to think that the spellcasting prowess of Penumbral Lord is a sham and that a straight wizard can do almost anything they can do, and most likely sooner and better.  A Wizard7/Penumbral Lord5 can cast 4th level spells at highest in both of his classes.  While a Wizard12 can cast 6th level spells.  While some, but not all, of the Penumbral Lord's spells are listed as a level lower than their wizard counter parts they still fall behind, even in the specialty, and never really ever pull even with the spellcasting prowess of a straight wizard, even in their specialty.  A by the time a Penumbral Lord reaches his one 9th level spell, a straight wizard will have reached the ability to cast 9th level spell, and will be able to cast a wider variety and often and two greater affect (after all the sole Penumbral Lord 9th level spell requires the expenditure of 5000xp).  If the Penumbral Lord stays dedicated enough to reach its one 9th level spell then they will have given up the caster level necessary to make full use of their shadowcast ability, and in fact they must either give up their 9th level spell slot, or their ability to cast 6th level wizard spells (for shadowcast) unless they are able to break into epic levels.  While the idea of the Penumbral Lord is cool, upon closer examination I'm thinking that the class is far to weak to be able to work well in a game with other characters of a similar level, as they will be quite simply, outclassed.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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