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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6007247" data-attributes="member: 8835">Are they optimized, or just coincidentally well suited for the task?Obviously, a fireman gets some training before he goes out on the truck so he can handle the job.But he also has some innate traits that draw him to that profession rather than some other job, like garbage man.Additionally, being a fireman and saving a kid from a burning building is one type of heroism.  It's his job.  he's trained for it and he has some basic equipment to help him do the job.Cory Booker, mayor of some city and former football player, while posessing some guts and muscle, lacked the extras a fireman had, yet he still ran into a burning building to save somebody.Drilling down further, there's countless tales of really normal people rushing into a building to save others.  The lacked training, equipment and, tough-guy experience.  Yet they too are recognized as heroes.so, I'm not sure optimization counts as a qualifying trait of a hero.  i think it's a nullified argument by virtue of examples on both extremes (folks very suited to being heroes, and folks who are ill-equipped, yet perform heroic acts).</blockquote>