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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 8796623" data-attributes="member: 6988941">Flanking is the big one because that is the one that most tables I've played at either use or would use if the rules were better. Basically most people I've played with seem to feel like there should be some sort of flanking bonus, and those who don't use the DMG advantage from flanking system avoid it because it's bad (trivializing advantage, which is plugged into too many other features), not because they would not like to have a flanking system of some sort. Personally I add a d4. It seems simple enough, is not nearly as good as advantage, but stacks with advantage.However I think an improved flanking rule should not be in the ghetto of DMG optional systems, it should just be part of the base game because I think most people would want to play with it. I think the basic nature of DMG optional rules is &quot;ideas we liked but couldn't nail down well enough to be satisfied with and decided the base game could work without&quot;, and I'm okay with that when it happens, but rules ending up there is a sign of failure. If they come up with something that works well and isn't overly complicated it should be in the base game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 8796623, member: 6988941"] Flanking is the big one because that is the one that most tables I've played at either use or would use if the rules were better. Basically most people I've played with seem to feel like there should be some sort of flanking bonus, and those who don't use the DMG advantage from flanking system avoid it because it's bad (trivializing advantage, which is plugged into too many other features), not because they would not like to have a flanking system of some sort. Personally I add a d4. It seems simple enough, is not nearly as good as advantage, but stacks with advantage. However I think an improved flanking rule should not be in the ghetto of DMG optional systems, it should just be part of the base game because I think most people would want to play with it. I think the basic nature of DMG optional rules is "ideas we liked but couldn't nail down well enough to be satisfied with and decided the base game could work without", and I'm okay with that when it happens, but rules ending up there is a sign of failure. If they come up with something that works well and isn't overly complicated it should be in the base game. [/QUOTE]

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