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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3483406" data-attributes="member: 94">Yeah, I think that's about it. But if you compare the sorcerer Spells Known table against the wizard Spells Per Day table, it still looks like the sorcerer gets a bit of a boost compared to the wizard.In retrospect I think I'd drop the &quot;spend an action to refresh a spell&quot; option for spontaneous casters. If such an &quot;opportunity cost mid-encounter refresh&quot; existed, it would probably need to exist for all casters. And I'm not sure it's not over the top. Even without it, all spellcasters are getting more spells per day.Spontaneous casters would keep the ability to expend another spell to refresh one they just cast. This is a pure analog to their existing mechanics.I thought about it last night but was too tired to edit my post for a second or third time. That's a good catch, because as the system is written above, spontaneous casters get no benefit for high ability scores. I could live with that, except that &quot;different is bad.&quot; I wouldn't want to have to retrain people's expectations. The simplest solution is just to give spontaneous casters one more spell known/spell readied. I might even go so far as to put a &quot;0&quot; entry in the sorcerer's table at the odd levels. It has always bothered me that the sorcerer has to wait longer to get the same level of spells as the wizard. (It makes planning certain kinds of adventures more difficult when the expected spell capability of the arcanist might be lagging one level behind the rest of the party.)Just talking off the top of my head, though. It might be broken.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 3483406, member: 94"] Yeah, I think that's about it. But if you compare the sorcerer Spells Known table against the wizard Spells Per Day table, it still looks like the sorcerer gets a bit of a boost compared to the wizard. In retrospect I think I'd drop the "spend an action to refresh a spell" option for spontaneous casters. If such an "opportunity cost mid-encounter refresh" existed, it would probably need to exist for all casters. And I'm not sure it's not over the top. Even without it, all spellcasters are getting more spells per day. Spontaneous casters [i]would[/i] keep the ability to expend another spell to refresh one they just cast. This is a pure analog to their existing mechanics. I thought about it last night but was too tired to edit my post for a second or third time. That's a good catch, because as the system is written above, spontaneous casters get no benefit for high ability scores. I could live with that, except that "different is bad." I wouldn't want to have to retrain people's expectations. The simplest solution is just to give spontaneous casters one more spell known/spell readied. I might even go so far as to put a "0" entry in the sorcerer's table at the odd levels. It has always bothered me that the sorcerer has to wait longer to get the same level of spells as the wizard. (It makes planning certain kinds of adventures more difficult when the expected spell capability of the arcanist might be lagging one level behind the rest of the party.) Just talking off the top of my head, though. It might be broken. [/QUOTE]

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