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<blockquote data-quote="Baksartha" data-source="post: 6202257" data-attributes="member: 31042">Sword of Spirit wrote: My situation was similar to yours. What I ended up doing was just rolling the encounter distance (I chose 1d20 + 20 x 10) and had both groups roll Readiness checks since no one was really trying to hide. The orcs noticed the PC's torchlight, the PC's heard the orcs moving and talking in the dark. When it was the orcs' turn to act, they decided to hide behind some rocks. They rolled really well on their Stealth checks (17 was the result, I usually just roll once for a whole group of creatures) and the PC's failed their Perception rolls. The PC's lost track of them in the dark, and the orcs attacked them with advantage when they moved closer. I didn't give the orcs surprise because the PC's knew something was there.Should the orcs have detected the PC's torches farther away? Probably. Should the PC's have heard the orcs at the distance rolled. Maybe. I'm not 100% sure. Was it realistic? Probably not. Did it work out/was it easy to DM/was it still fun? Yes! I really think this is what Wizards is aiming for. It might not be realistic, but it works, and it saves alot of headache trying to figure out exactly when who detects what.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baksartha, post: 6202257, member: 31042"] Sword of Spirit wrote: My situation was similar to yours. What I ended up doing was just rolling the encounter distance (I chose 1d20 + 20 x 10) and had both groups roll Readiness checks since no one was really trying to hide. The orcs noticed the PC's torchlight, the PC's heard the orcs moving and talking in the dark. When it was the orcs' turn to act, they decided to hide behind some rocks. They rolled really well on their Stealth checks (17 was the result, I usually just roll once for a whole group of creatures) and the PC's failed their Perception rolls. The PC's lost track of them in the dark, and the orcs attacked them with advantage when they moved closer. I didn't give the orcs surprise because the PC's knew something was there. Should the orcs have detected the PC's torches farther away? Probably. Should the PC's have heard the orcs at the distance rolled. Maybe. I'm not 100% sure. Was it realistic? Probably not. Did it work out/was it easy to DM/was it still fun? Yes! I really think this is what Wizards is aiming for. It might not be realistic, but it works, and it saves alot of headache trying to figure out exactly when who detects what. [/QUOTE]

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