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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gruns" data-source="post: 4487458" data-attributes="member: 10312">Hey all.Not a specific rules question here, but more of a general "Am I understanding this right?" sort of thing.Let's say the highest passive Perception score for anyone in my group is 20.Now let's say I make a secret door with a Perception DC of exactly 20. This means that it is spotted automatically as soon as they pass by it or get near it? And just how near? Within 10 squares of it and can see it? (The table on PHB 187 says the DC is +2 when more than 10 squares away.)Does this mean if I put in a secret door that I want to make them actively search for, I simply make the DC 21 (or higher) ? Is this ratbastard DM metagaming, or the way it's supposed to be?And supposing they do spend the <s>Standard</s> Minor action to actively try to Perceive it, this result could be worse than if they had not tried at all? I guess it doesn't matter too much, since if they could have spotted it passively, they wouldn't have bothered actively searching...Thanks for the clarifications, smart people.Gruns</blockquote>