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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 3756683" data-attributes="member: 20239">I can't understand how playing a game where you are constantly monitoring the DM for cheating and unfairness could be any fun at all, whether the rules make it easy to spot or not.&nbsp; If you know the guy is a jerk, why would you play in his game in the first place?&nbsp; All of these critiques of DM fiat rely on the assumption that the DM is a total tool.&nbsp; I think, for the vast majority of people who say they enjoy the more open style of play, the base assumption is that people monitor the personality of their DM at the level of &quot;do I play in this game&quot; not at the level of &quot;is this individual call from my tool-of-a-DM something I should interrupt the game for and get into a 30 minute argument over&quot;.&nbsp; That doesn't sound like a fun game for anyone.That's just it, you're not making an argument for &quot;everyone being on the same page&quot; you're making an argument for the players in a game playing the dual roles of participants having fun and referees maintaining constant vigilance against a cheating, jerk DM who isn't interested in making the game fun for anyone but himself.&nbsp; Why deal with THAT?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 3756683, member: 20239"] I can't understand how playing a game where you are constantly monitoring the DM for cheating and unfairness could be any fun at all, whether the rules make it easy to spot or not. If you know the guy is a jerk, why would you play in his game in the first place? All of these critiques of DM fiat rely on the assumption that the DM is a total tool. I think, for the vast majority of people who say they enjoy the more open style of play, the base assumption is that people monitor the personality of their DM at the level of "do I play in this game" not at the level of "is this individual call from my tool-of-a-DM something I should interrupt the game for and get into a 30 minute argument over". That doesn't sound like a fun game for anyone. That's just it, you're not making an argument for "everyone being on the same page" you're making an argument for the players in a game playing the dual roles of participants having fun and referees maintaining constant vigilance against a cheating, jerk DM who isn't interested in making the game fun for anyone but himself. Why deal with THAT? [/QUOTE]

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