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<blockquote data-quote="rkwoodard" data-source="post: 3758945" data-attributes="member: 33228">save or die situationsThe phrasing about the save or die being the last effort to save the character turned a light on in my head.&nbsp; I can accept this and it even gives me some inspiration going forward.&nbsp; But this takes a good DM.&nbsp; Two true stories I think really highlight this;1)&nbsp; &nbsp; Badwrongnotfun: We are in a tower (upper level) we open a door.&nbsp; The DM states there are 3 gorgon in here everybody make saves.&nbsp; (I cheated, every character and animal companion failed and we went out and drank beer).2)&nbsp; &nbsp; Good.&nbsp; Ghost Towers.&nbsp; The DM states(or even reads)&nbsp; You come up a figure with its back to you, It is wearing a cloak what covers it completely even the head.&nbsp; You hear the soft hiss of snakes.&nbsp; (we dug out the mirror PDQ).That 2nd example is in my opinion of a good Save or lose situation. In running Ghost towers (using the same descriptive style), I have had group dog pile the Medusa as well as run. But with that description no one has approached it as business as usuall.RK</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rkwoodard, post: 3758945, member: 33228"] [b]save or die situations[/b] The phrasing about the save or die being the last effort to save the character turned a light on in my head. I can accept this and it even gives me some inspiration going forward. But this takes a good DM. Two true stories I think really highlight this; 1) Badwrongnotfun: We are in a tower (upper level) we open a door. The DM states there are 3 gorgon in here everybody make saves. (I cheated, every character and animal companion failed and we went out and drank beer). 2) Good. Ghost Towers. The DM states(or even reads) You come up a figure with its back to you, It is wearing a cloak what covers it completely even the head. You hear the soft hiss of snakes. (we dug out the mirror PDQ). That 2nd example is in my opinion of a good Save or lose situation. In running Ghost towers (using the same descriptive style), I have had group dog pile the Medusa as well as run. But with that description no one has approached it as business as usuall. RK [/QUOTE]

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