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<blockquote data-quote="Valiant" data-source="post: 3764404" data-attributes="member: 54792">To each their own shilsen.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But what I described IS&nbsp; BTB advise.&nbsp; reread the PH and DMG sections on play and DMing, it concures with what I say (or hell go ask Gary yourself in his thread).&nbsp; Gygax wanted&nbsp; the DM to be in complete control.&nbsp; He also wanted the players to stick to immersion (and not to worry about rules and mechanics or figuring odds out; it was the DMs job to remove as many destractions from your imagination as possible.&nbsp; Now not everyone follows that advice.&nbsp; Some never have!&nbsp; Those that haven't don't really have the ability to judge if they would have preferred &quot;playing blind&quot; (as opposed to quasi-co-DMing. BTW, I agree with you on WSF.&nbsp; A dagger would obviously be quicker to move around then a sword.&nbsp; Thats plenty for the player to know (that physical reality).&nbsp; He doesn't need to know how WSF &quot;rules&quot; work (or even if the DM is using WSF in his game).&nbsp; Your DM might not even agree with WSF, thinking it over complicates the game.&nbsp; Or he might think any advantage one would gain from lightness and agility with a dagger would be lost to the swords length advantage (keeping the opponent at bay more or less).&nbsp; Its the DMs game, remember that. Anyhow, this thread is about 1E (the game as written) not &quot;list your experiance and opinions on how to improve 1E&quot;. , What I present is advice given BTB from Gary in the DMG and PH (once again go read it for yourself).&nbsp; This &quot;advise&quot; on how to run your table is IMHO a core defacto rule that many of you choose to ignore.&nbsp; You might prefer to ignore these rules (the same way you might not use WSF or Armor tables).&nbsp; But some rules are not optional.So, as Gary once said, &quot;your playing something but its not 1E&quot; (or something like that).&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Valiant, post: 3764404, member: 54792"] To each their own shilsen. ;) But what I described IS BTB advise. reread the PH and DMG sections on play and DMing, it concures with what I say (or hell go ask Gary yourself in his thread). Gygax wanted the DM to be in complete control. He also wanted the players to stick to immersion (and not to worry about rules and mechanics or figuring odds out; it was the DMs job to remove as many destractions from your imagination as possible. Now not everyone follows that advice. Some never have! Those that haven't don't really have the ability to judge if they would have preferred "playing blind" (as opposed to quasi-co-DMing. BTW, I agree with you on WSF. A dagger would obviously be quicker to move around then a sword. Thats plenty for the player to know (that physical reality). He doesn't need to know how WSF "rules" work (or even if the DM is using WSF in his game). Your DM might not even agree with WSF, thinking it over complicates the game. Or he might think any advantage one would gain from lightness and agility with a dagger would be lost to the swords length advantage (keeping the opponent at bay more or less). Its the DMs game, remember that. Anyhow, this thread is about 1E (the game as written) not "list your experiance and opinions on how to improve 1E". , What I present is advice given BTB from Gary in the DMG and PH (once again go read it for yourself). This "advise" on how to run your table is IMHO a core defacto rule that many of you choose to ignore. You might prefer to ignore these rules (the same way you might not use WSF or Armor tables). But some rules are not optional. So, as Gary once said, "your playing something but its not 1E" (or something like that). ;) [/QUOTE]

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