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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 3773599" data-attributes="member: 46713">That's really a gross oversimplification, imho. Preferring well-known and well-defined rules does neither imply nor dictate a style of 'playing to win' (as opposed to cooperative gaming) in any way. And I am speaking from experience here:I've had lot's of players that were trying to 'win the game' in games which were light on rules. I'd even argue, there are indications that a lack of precise rules favours this kind of play, because you can try to argue your way through everything.And my current 3.5 campaign is (so far) characterized by a better degree of cooperation among the players (and between players and me as the DM) than any other game I've played in so far.So it bears repeating: There's no inherent connection between those two styles of play and the amount/importance of rules.</blockquote>