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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8248998" data-attributes="member: 3400">It strikes me that if your players are going to give you detail like the pixel-bitchy old school days, you might as well forego the investigation rolls and tell them they succeed if they try to move the moose. Why encumber the search with the chance of failure if they're already describing everything you've visualized to find the hidden space behind the moose?I prefer to use the investigation/perception check to refine a more general action and just adjudicate an action that's right on the money as a success. For example, if I have a situation where there's a valuable piece of jewelry that's fallen between a mattress and the wall and a PC specifically moves the bed, they'll find it automatically. But if the player says &quot;I'll search the bed&quot; then the die roll (and their skill modifier) will ultimately determine how thorough they were.You might be able to infer that I'm not that fan of the pixel-bitching that old school play, nor am I fan of too many dice rolls. There are too many situations in which a player will have absolutely NO personal expertise in something their PC knows how to do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8248998, member: 3400"] It strikes me that if your players are going to give you detail like the pixel-bitchy old school days, you might as well forego the investigation rolls and tell them they succeed if they try to move the moose. Why encumber the search with the chance of failure if they're already describing everything you've visualized to find the hidden space behind the moose? I prefer to use the investigation/perception check to refine a more general action and just adjudicate an action that's right on the money as a success. For example, if I have a situation where there's a valuable piece of jewelry that's fallen between a mattress and the wall and a PC specifically moves the bed, they'll find it automatically. But if the player says "I'll search the bed" then the die roll (and their skill modifier) will ultimately determine how thorough they were. You might be able to infer that I'm not that fan of the pixel-bitching that old school play, nor am I fan of too many dice rolls. There are too many situations in which a player will have absolutely NO personal expertise in something their PC knows how to do. [/QUOTE]

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