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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ObsidianCrane" data-source="post: 4161249" data-attributes="member: 54918">Gee so you think its bad there is a 50% chance its higher than your passive check and a 45% chance its worse? Looks like the odds are in favor of it being better to me.In DMing I've done this;I've used Passive Perception as the DC of the Stealth Rolls of opponents. Similarly for Social Rolls and Passive Insight.I have also compared static DCs to the Passive Perception/Insight, if their Passive Perception/Insight didn't beat the DC then I didn't tell them anything, if it did they got the relevant info. If they then choose to actively use the skills, they get a roll after the Passive check. This latter use is very similar to the OP's "minimum value" but works slightly differently, particularly for characters with low Passive totals in a party with high Passive values characters. The high characters become a source of information, it becomes an RP tool to develop around, because information flows in without the PCs needing to roll.So when a low Passive character is alone, they need to start thinking "Do I roll?", which means they are making a choice to do something, that may take time, or give the opponent clues about them etc.Now even if the rules don't allow Passive skills to be used in the second way I'll probably house rule that anyway - because I like the way it plays out.</blockquote>