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<blockquote data-quote="Gargazon" data-source="post: 4161328" data-attributes="member: 61161"><p>Why would you be trying to actively look for it? If it's that easy to spot, your player has seen it. If it's actively trying to hide, say through a Stealth check, and it rolls higher than your Passive Perception then you'd have to make an active check to find it. If not, he has seen it. Your players don't just switch passive perception on or off.</p><p></p><p>For example, the players enter a room. There are three party members - one has a PP (passive perception) of 9, one has a PP of 16 and one has a PP of 13. There are four kobolds hiding in the room, and they all make seperate stealth checks. They get 4, 12, 14 and 20 on their rolls. When the players enter the room, the one with a PP of 9 spots one kobold, the player with a PP of 13 spots two, and the player with a PP of 16 spots three kobolds. They won't know there's a fourth kobold until they make an active perception check, or that kobold attacks them.</p><p></p><p>Noone is going to use active perception before passive perception, as it there is no need. The player's character is perceptive enough to notice things that are obvious to them without needing to make a check. It's when they still suspect things are hidden that they will reach of the dice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gargazon, post: 4161328, member: 61161"] Why would you be trying to actively look for it? If it's that easy to spot, your player has seen it. If it's actively trying to hide, say through a Stealth check, and it rolls higher than your Passive Perception then you'd have to make an active check to find it. If not, he has seen it. Your players don't just switch passive perception on or off. For example, the players enter a room. There are three party members - one has a PP (passive perception) of 9, one has a PP of 16 and one has a PP of 13. There are four kobolds hiding in the room, and they all make seperate stealth checks. They get 4, 12, 14 and 20 on their rolls. When the players enter the room, the one with a PP of 9 spots one kobold, the player with a PP of 13 spots two, and the player with a PP of 16 spots three kobolds. They won't know there's a fourth kobold until they make an active perception check, or that kobold attacks them. Noone is going to use active perception before passive perception, as it there is no need. The player's character is perceptive enough to notice things that are obvious to them without needing to make a check. It's when they still suspect things are hidden that they will reach of the dice. [/QUOTE]
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