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<blockquote data-quote="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos" data-source="post: 4162615" data-attributes="member: 16668">I think this is a classic case of replying to a post before reading the rest of the thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Of course the passive perception check is a 'take 10'... that's more than obvious.Please see post #9 for an explanation of how passive/active perception checks work in 4E (assuming that's not just a theory), and my reply in post #10. Actually, post #11 contains a clearer explanation. In any case, it sounds like the passive check effectively establishes a lower bound for the check (i.e. your minimum Perception 'roll' is a 10 - the passive check's 'take 10'). In other words, you automatically get a passive check in any situation that requires one (which the DM makes secretly). In addition to that, you have the option to make an active check if desired.The bottom line is that under this method for making perception checks, the 45% chance of an active check being lower than a passive check is meaningless (again, see post #10).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos, post: 4162615, member: 16668"] I think this is a classic case of replying to a post before reading the rest of the thread. :) Of course the passive perception check is a 'take 10'... that's more than obvious. Please see post #9 for an explanation of how passive/active perception checks work in 4E (assuming that's not just a theory), and my reply in post #10. Actually, post #11 contains a clearer explanation. In any case, it sounds like the passive check effectively establishes a lower bound for the check (i.e. your minimum Perception 'roll' is a 10 - the passive check's 'take 10'). In other words, you automatically get a passive check in any situation that requires one (which the DM makes secretly). In addition to that, you have the option to make an active check if desired. The bottom line is that under this method for making perception checks, the 45% chance of an active check being lower than a passive check is meaningless (again, see post #10). [/QUOTE]

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