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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blackbrrd" data-source="post: 4279569" data-attributes="member: 63962">At first level there you essentially have a +4 (3e) or +5 (4e) if you are trained in the skillAt level 10 this is +14 (3e) and +5 (4e).In other words: in earlier editions you wouldn't stand any chance at all, even a 20 wouldn't help. Now you can just spend one of those feats that don't do too much to get your eyes open. Personally, I think all the characters in my upcoming will have training in perception by level 6. Its a choice that is so easy I begin to dislike it a bit. On the other hand, some of those characters might want to spend 4 feats on getting plate and heavy shield instead of just chain proficiency.Oh... I noticed one thing, the armor check penalty in 4e is -2 for plate and -1 for chain and hide. Scale actually doesn't have a armor check penalty. That means you can have a fighter in scale mail and a light shield actually being kinda sneaky! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>