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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 6599719" data-attributes="member: 58401">I'm really not sure what accusing WotC of lying about a dead supplemental product is adding to this discussion. Yep, 4E had at least a couple cracks at collectible card products, but none of them were a game unto themselves, nor were they ever enforced as a competitive element between players. They were never necessary and they were never a game unto themselves, but I'm not even sure what you're accusing WotC of lying about anymore.I will say this convo is beginning to remind me of 2008, so thanks for that.</blockquote>