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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Wolf" data-source="post: 1060539" data-attributes="member: 10407">In my own defense... it is my opinion that Queenie exagerated slightly in her description of what happened.Yes the lich was on the third level of a dungeon but the party was lead through the dungeon following a trail of blood and had only a few encounters before reaching the end.  They did not crawl through the whole dungeon.  Yes they did fight the golem and then the lich... but the party was loaded to the hilt with magic items including artifacts for each member.I agree that it was a cheesy way for the party to meet its end, I just wanted opinions on what other people do when a situation that warrants permanant character death arises.Thanks for all the opinions and ideas.  This has been very helpful.</blockquote>