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<blockquote data-quote="Thistleknot" data-source="post: 185533" data-attributes="member: 1577"><p>Under the permanency spells, there are several spells listed that I'm sure everyone knows about. I was wondering this: </p><p></p><p>If someone casts Dispel Magic on your character, does it completely remove the permanent spell effect if it is sucessful or does it just deactivate the effect for 1d4 rounds, like casting on a permanent magic item? If it does, does the spell go away with the dispelling of the permanency spell, or do two checks need be made before the effect is completely dispelled? </p><p></p><p>In my game, I was inclined to treat it as a magic item. But one of my players mentioned that this doesn't seem right, because a slotless item for the spell Darkvision (the example spell in question) costs somewhere in the neighborhood of 40,000gp (I don't remember the exact price off the top of my head) rather than the permanent spell, which costs around 5,700gp. I was thinking about this, and then I thought that part of an item's cost is its usefulness, and an item that can't be shared amongst the party or resold, ever is not quite as useful as a slotless item that can be passed around, so that would account for the lower price of the permanent spell. I didn't think the slotless nature of the item and the fact that it couldn't be taken away from the person it was cast on would balance out the price difference. </p><p></p><p>Any thoughts to help me make a decision?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thistleknot, post: 185533, member: 1577"] Under the permanency spells, there are several spells listed that I'm sure everyone knows about. I was wondering this: If someone casts Dispel Magic on your character, does it completely remove the permanent spell effect if it is sucessful or does it just deactivate the effect for 1d4 rounds, like casting on a permanent magic item? If it does, does the spell go away with the dispelling of the permanency spell, or do two checks need be made before the effect is completely dispelled? In my game, I was inclined to treat it as a magic item. But one of my players mentioned that this doesn't seem right, because a slotless item for the spell Darkvision (the example spell in question) costs somewhere in the neighborhood of 40,000gp (I don't remember the exact price off the top of my head) rather than the permanent spell, which costs around 5,700gp. I was thinking about this, and then I thought that part of an item's cost is its usefulness, and an item that can't be shared amongst the party or resold, ever is not quite as useful as a slotless item that can be passed around, so that would account for the lower price of the permanent spell. I didn't think the slotless nature of the item and the fact that it couldn't be taken away from the person it was cast on would balance out the price difference. Any thoughts to help me make a decision? [/QUOTE]
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