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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 2267055" data-attributes="member: 1328">First, the SRD entry:<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">Persistent Image</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank"></a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">Illusion (Figment)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">Level:     Brd 5, Sor/Wiz 5</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">Duration:     1 min./level (D)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank"></a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">This spell functions like silent image, except that the figment includes visual, auditory, olfactory, and thermal components, and the figment follows a script determined by you. The figment follows that script without your having to concentrate on it. The illusion can include intelligible speech if you wish.</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">Material Component</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank"></a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/persistentImage.htm" target="_blank">A bit of fleece and several grains of sand.</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Silent Image</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Illusion (Figment)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Level:     Brd 1, Sor/Wiz 1</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Components:     V, S, F</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Casting Time:     1 standard action</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Range:     Long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Effect:     Visual figment that cannot extend beyond four 10-ft. cubes + one 10-ft. cube/level (S)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Duration:     Concentration</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Saving Throw:     Will disbelief (if interacted with)</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Spell Resistance:     No</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank"></a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">This spell creates the visual illusion of an object, creature, or force, as visualized by you. The illusion does not create sound, smell, texture, or temperature. You can move the image within the limits of the size of the effect.</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">Focus</a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank"></a> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silentImage.htm" target="_blank">A bit of fleece.</a>So, the rules are very clear. You can create the image of an object (e.g., a pie), a creature (e.g., an orc) or a force. I'm not sure what they mean by "a force", a manifestation of energy? Forces are usually not seen, but felt. Could you create the illusion of a reverse gravity field? With people in the zone feeling like they're falling toward the sky, while keeping their feet on the ground. (Woah... Trippy!)OK, so you can create the illusion of a creature. You just have to be creative with the creature you choose. Instead of creating the image of an orc, create the image of the creature known as "orc mob" (see the upcoming DMG2 for the mob type, but in short, it's like swarm for bigger creatures). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />(PS: More seriously, I'd consider as a house-rule that the important parameter is « Visual figment that cannot extend beyond four 10-ft. cubes + one 10-ft. cube/level (S) ». As long as you keep within that parameter, I'd let someone create the illusion of one thing/level instead. So a wizard casting persistent image would be able to show nine or more orcs fighting each others.)</blockquote>

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