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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 4305047" data-attributes="member: 6533">I really disagree with your analysis here:1.) If this is a functional value for narrative then printed books also fail at conveying narrative.&nbsp; Alice is always falling down the rabitt hole, Jack is always chopping the bean stalk, and Frodo is always fat and slightly bored in the shire.2.) There are differences in tolerance, but the function is still the same.&nbsp; &nbsp; Further some of your claims here don't work on face value.&nbsp; Of course there's collaboration and feedback.&nbsp; A computer game will stop working if you stop feeding it data and interacting with it.&nbsp; RPGs more so than others.3.) Agreed.4.) By the definition you give there is no sensible way to interpret CRPGs as failing.&nbsp; The immersive framework functions as the limitation of possible actions in both mediums.&nbsp;&nbsp; The tolerances are different in both scope and value, but in neither my MilSF CRPG nor my MilSF TRPG can your character move the adventure forward by suddenly deciding to turn into a dragon and burninate the city.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 4305047, member: 6533"] I really disagree with your analysis here: 1.) If this is a functional value for narrative then printed books also fail at conveying narrative. Alice is always falling down the rabitt hole, Jack is always chopping the bean stalk, and Frodo is always fat and slightly bored in the shire. 2.) There are differences in tolerance, but the function is still the same. Further some of your claims here don't work on face value. Of course there's collaboration and feedback. A computer game will stop working if you stop feeding it data and interacting with it. RPGs more so than others. 3.) Agreed. 4.) By the definition you give there is no sensible way to interpret CRPGs as failing. The immersive framework functions as the limitation of possible actions in both mediums. The tolerances are different in both scope and value, but in neither my MilSF CRPG nor my MilSF TRPG can your character move the adventure forward by suddenly deciding to turn into a dragon and burninate the city. [/QUOTE]

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