D&D 3E/3.5 Perspective on the Edition Wars - salute to the 3e Camp

Rechan

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As the sun sets on 4e and moves towards 5e, I see a lot of the old Edition War canards revised, but with the scenarios flipped.

For instance, you saw a lot of "I like 4e because you couldn't do X in 3e". The response would be "Well of course you could, you just have to do a lot of Y and jiggle a little z" "But that's too much work." Or "I don't like 3e because there's so much of A" "But you don't even NEED a - just take it out." Now I see similar comments said, but it's now 4e in the "It can't do that" seat.

I find myself in much the situation that many of the 3e guard were, and it adds a bit of perspective - I get the impression how the Edition Warriors on that side of the trenches felt. Now, instead of trying to justify an existing playstyle to be validated, it seems more like that playstyle has been tossed to the wayside and one has to try and get some of it in the next edition, like a dumped ex-husband trying to get some of his stuff back. Seems like there's a lot of badmouthing coming from the last edition and the new one.

Not to mention that I don't want to see the designers say anything cross about my preferred edition - acknowledging its faults are fine, but being insensitive isn't - which sheds light on the reactions of those who had 3e dumped on.

While I haven't changed my preferences and the reasons for them, I can now see where a lot of folks were coming from.
 

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Maybe I don't read up on it enough, since I could care less what other people think of my preferred system (3.x), but it always seemed to me that 4e was getting dumped on more while it was out than 3e.
 

Isn't it a bit early?

I still play 3.5 :hmm: I can't say I relate. I mean how would someone badmouthing 3.5 hurt my feelings? I was expecting more from 4e because 3.5 wasn't good enough. It just happened that I liked 4e less than 3.5 when I tried it.
 

As the sun sets on 4e and moves towards 5e, I see a lot of the old Edition War canards revised, but with the scenarios flipped.

For instance, you saw a lot of "I like 4e because you couldn't do X in 3e". The response would be "Well of course you could, you just have to do a lot of Y and jiggle a little z" "But that's too much work." Or "I don't like 3e because there's so much of A" "But you don't even NEED a - just take it out." Now I see similar comments said, but it's now 4e in the "It can't do that" seat.

I find myself in much the situation that many of the 3e guard were, and it adds a bit of perspective - I get the impression how the Edition Warriors on that side of the trenches felt. Now, instead of trying to justify an existing playstyle to be validated, it seems more like that playstyle has been tossed to the wayside and one has to try and get some of it in the next edition, like a dumped ex-husband trying to get some of his stuff back. Seems like there's a lot of badmouthing coming from the last edition and the new one.

Not to mention that I don't want to see the designers say anything cross about my preferred edition - acknowledging its faults are fine, but being insensitive isn't - which sheds light on the reactions of those who had 3e dumped on.

While I haven't changed my preferences and the reasons for them, I can now see where a lot of folks were coming from.

'm NOT sure I agree, the sun has NOT set on 4E, since the sun is not yet near the horizon for 5e, still over a year away. And I am unsure why that matters? New 4E products are still being produced. Am Unsure if this is aiding or hindering "editions wars". .

I have listened to 3E & 4E bash for several years. I don't think the 4E crowd are bashing anything. Now some have begun bashing 5E from a few vague playtests from DDXP & some designers BLOGS. Please wait for the open playtest.

I may play 5E, or keep playing 4E. I have out grown 1E, 2E, & 3E, yet I have no ill will to my D&D brethren playing those systems. Regardless what some say, NO "WOTC gremlins" will steal your books to your favorite edition in the darkness of the night. Your favorite snack foods are safe as well.

I guess I might be a 4E warrior, but Be a warrior for your favorite edition too. I don't condone any attacks on other editions. Shouldn't the players of other editions of D&D be my friends, neighbors and even allies, since we all share fantasy RPGs as a hobby.

YES, Lets tear down the walls, fill in the trenches. Play BECMI or play Pathfinder, play 5E, but certainly play what you enjoy!
 

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