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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6742644" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I guess that's one approach to the 'cat herding' aspect of DMing. </p><p></p><p>That's possible. I mostly run games, particularly introductory 5e games for new players. I've been on the player side of the 5e screen only a few times, each of those with an excellent DM. </p><p></p><p>As far as 5e is concerned, IMHO, 'good enough' is just on the DM side. Your players can be inexperienced or casual or troublesome - anything short of actively malicious, really - you have the tools to keep the game flowing and fun for all, regardless. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure I followed that example. I take it this group had played a lot of 3.5, and their expectations were colored by that?</p><p></p><p>Obviously, it does happen, since there are a lot of us running it. I'll take your point as far as there's a certain minimum that 5e requires from it's DMs, just to make the game functional, and that's fair, but the idea has always been that the DM would be more experienced and knowledgeable about the game than his players.</p><p></p><p>On the contrary, IMX, an experienced DM can deliver a delightful first play experience with 5e, in just a few hours. </p><p></p><p>Meh. Games, board or RPG, are still games, they're not as rarefied as all that. </p><p></p><p>I wouldn't take the resolution system as implying that. Quite the opposite, the DM narrates the results of players' declared actions, that could very will include those sorts of things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6742644, member: 996"] I guess that's one approach to the 'cat herding' aspect of DMing. That's possible. I mostly run games, particularly introductory 5e games for new players. I've been on the player side of the 5e screen only a few times, each of those with an excellent DM. As far as 5e is concerned, IMHO, 'good enough' is just on the DM side. Your players can be inexperienced or casual or troublesome - anything short of actively malicious, really - you have the tools to keep the game flowing and fun for all, regardless. I'm not sure I followed that example. I take it this group had played a lot of 3.5, and their expectations were colored by that? Obviously, it does happen, since there are a lot of us running it. I'll take your point as far as there's a certain minimum that 5e requires from it's DMs, just to make the game functional, and that's fair, but the idea has always been that the DM would be more experienced and knowledgeable about the game than his players. On the contrary, IMX, an experienced DM can deliver a delightful first play experience with 5e, in just a few hours. Meh. Games, board or RPG, are still games, they're not as rarefied as all that. I wouldn't take the resolution system as implying that. Quite the opposite, the DM narrates the results of players' declared actions, that could very will include those sorts of things. [/QUOTE]
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