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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7558312" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>One thing you might address with the players in general is something I put in my Table Rules:"'Metagaming,' defined as using player skill or knowledge that a character might not necessarily have, is fine as long as it's fun for everyone and helps contribute to an exciting, memorable story. Assumptions can be risky though so it's skillful play to verify your assumptions through in-game actions before making choices based on them."</p><p></p><p>Under such a policy, your veterans can "metagame" all they want (after all, it's not up to the DM to decide how someone makes decisions for his or her own characteR), but at least the rest of the table will know they might not necessarily correct. The smart thing to do is try to see if the "metagaming" the veterans are doing is actually correct. If they are not, then the players might make bad decisions as a result or miss out on good opportunities. Presented this way, you're telling your players how to be more successful at the game and I've yet to meet a player who doesn't want to achieve that goal.</p><p></p><p>Further, if the veterans are "metagaming" in a way that is making the game less fun for everyone (and that includes the DM), then this needs to be addressed on a personal level in my view to refocus the group on the goals of play. The whole point of the game is to create a story together of brave adventurers boldly confronting deadly perils and having fun. (It says so right in the rules.) <em>Not</em> doing that misses the point of the entire exercise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7558312, member: 97077"] One thing you might address with the players in general is something I put in my Table Rules:"'Metagaming,' defined as using player skill or knowledge that a character might not necessarily have, is fine as long as it's fun for everyone and helps contribute to an exciting, memorable story. Assumptions can be risky though so it's skillful play to verify your assumptions through in-game actions before making choices based on them." Under such a policy, your veterans can "metagame" all they want (after all, it's not up to the DM to decide how someone makes decisions for his or her own characteR), but at least the rest of the table will know they might not necessarily correct. The smart thing to do is try to see if the "metagaming" the veterans are doing is actually correct. If they are not, then the players might make bad decisions as a result or miss out on good opportunities. Presented this way, you're telling your players how to be more successful at the game and I've yet to meet a player who doesn't want to achieve that goal. Further, if the veterans are "metagaming" in a way that is making the game less fun for everyone (and that includes the DM), then this needs to be addressed on a personal level in my view to refocus the group on the goals of play. The whole point of the game is to create a story together of brave adventurers boldly confronting deadly perils and having fun. (It says so right in the rules.) [I]Not[/I] doing that misses the point of the entire exercise. [/QUOTE]
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