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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7542003" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>So what's stopping you from hiring/asking a 20th level Wizard to come with you and "win" the game in your place? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I tell you what: anything that's a class/subclass/character ability is GRANTED. </p><p></p><p>Everything else is NOT granted. It is not granted that you can find a trained animal for sale. It is not granted that it will work they way you want. It is not granted that it will be loyal and die for you only because you paid for it. It is not granted that you can buy another every day (because that's probably how long it will last if used for combat).</p><p></p><p>If you keep judging the Beastmaster pet by comparing it to an infinite supply of cheap and immediately available well-trained animals as reliable as a robot, and then maybe at the same time making the BM pet less reliable by adding RP requirements that aren't there, no wonder the latter becomes pointless. </p><p></p><p>It's the same problem as with 3e Leadership feat. Most people didn't realise the cohort was not the same as a regular NPC and thought the feat was useless. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's exactly THE wrong thing to do. The BM pet is UNLIKE the rest of the game. </p><p></p><p>Their assumption is correct by definition : only the Beastmaster gets such pet. </p><p></p><p>Everyone (including the BM) can buy a trained animal, but they have to go through the "common sense" of finding one, pay for it, spend more time to teach it who's the new master, provide care for it, and RP to keep it loyal. Maybe it even takes its share of XP. Then repeat every each time it dies in battle or runs away for its life. THAT is common sense for an animal or NPC who is an entirely different being than its owner.</p><p></p><p>The BM pet is not a different being. It's part of the PC in many ways. Its price us already paid taking the subclass. Common sense doesn't apply to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7542003, member: 1465"] So what's stopping you from hiring/asking a 20th level Wizard to come with you and "win" the game in your place? :) I tell you what: anything that's a class/subclass/character ability is GRANTED. Everything else is NOT granted. It is not granted that you can find a trained animal for sale. It is not granted that it will work they way you want. It is not granted that it will be loyal and die for you only because you paid for it. It is not granted that you can buy another every day (because that's probably how long it will last if used for combat). If you keep judging the Beastmaster pet by comparing it to an infinite supply of cheap and immediately available well-trained animals as reliable as a robot, and then maybe at the same time making the BM pet less reliable by adding RP requirements that aren't there, no wonder the latter becomes pointless. It's the same problem as with 3e Leadership feat. Most people didn't realise the cohort was not the same as a regular NPC and thought the feat was useless. And that's exactly THE wrong thing to do. The BM pet is UNLIKE the rest of the game. Their assumption is correct by definition : only the Beastmaster gets such pet. Everyone (including the BM) can buy a trained animal, but they have to go through the "common sense" of finding one, pay for it, spend more time to teach it who's the new master, provide care for it, and RP to keep it loyal. Maybe it even takes its share of XP. Then repeat every each time it dies in battle or runs away for its life. THAT is common sense for an animal or NPC who is an entirely different being than its owner. The BM pet is not a different being. It's part of the PC in many ways. Its price us already paid taking the subclass. Common sense doesn't apply to it. [/QUOTE]
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