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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4534654" data-attributes="member: 70778">1.How will these not translate to minis? You can't make a d4 or d6?I would hope these simple shapes would be really easy to sculpt, and just stick eyes on all sides and a few arms like the Xorn.Also David Sutherland artwork is not "horrible line drawings".2. I find it odd things like a bat familiar that fly as well as Stirge, etc are minis and they should have nothing supporting them at all. Ever tried placing something in a seated position? Don't have to worry about thin legs supporting them. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />3. I think there are plenty of people who play older editions and not just 4th edition that may purchase minis for those they need for those editions. Minis collectors and users for "RPG purposes" are NOT limited to only those people that play 4th edition. This is an accessory to a product line, and everything does not need to fall in line with that product line in its current form. Minis are a fickle market as well currently known, and the buyers buy what they want, not what you tell them they want. You need to make minis that wil interest the consumer and D&D players. That means for the greatest profit you need to target all editions of D&D, not just limited to the few available and already saturated creature types that existed in DDM.Who here needs another 5000 goblins?4. They don't need to be redesigned in an line with #1 and #2, you are aware that there are more than polyhedral modrons in the MMII that you quoted correct?Pages 86 - 91 include pictures of nearly a dozen modrons. Some nothing more than simple bodies with near Maui heads on them. It is not like it would be something requiring massive amounts of R&D to do. The pictures exist and can be made from existing body types that the modron specific parts could be added to.Take for example the Quarton, Tertian, Primus! The Nonaton is also simple to make and would not take that much sculpting and the molding simple.It would not be that hard to take one and put it in, or in spare time to make one of these and try to get it in. I would prefer to see interesting minis that have henceforth never existed rather than more of the same crap with new clothes that is already flooding peoples closets and waste bins.There are plenty of the common crap type monsters unless they are going to be made theme packed, and some more irregular monsters need to be had for ALL D&D players as a D&D accessory that has been waited for for 20+ years.There is little excuse for anyone to "need" to tie the minis to 4th edition since there is no DDM. Make minis for RPG use and try to capture a broader market than just the 4th edition D&D players, and you stand a chance of getting other RPG players, and minis collectors to get the new line. Otherwise you risk having lower sales of product than the latest from DM that caused that line to end.That first statement in there calling the artowrk horrible line drawings as compared to the stale crap in the 4th edition books has nearly put me off from ANY purchase of the new miniature, cause Lord knows I don't need more than the 10k+ minis I already own. Especially if its the same crap that has been being put out for 3 decades, or uninspiring crap that looks like WoW or Warhammer minis.</blockquote>

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