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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1237580" data-attributes="member: 8704">One thing I'd like to point out on the Faramir stuff, in the movie he never tried to take the ring, he never asked to see it or to hold it or to mess with it at all, he was sending the Hbbits to his father because that was the law and he was trying to show his father he was worthy, that's a totally different than the interpretation of him being villianized, he was a roadblock and a hurdle for them but he never was a villian in any way, he was trying to save his people and become worthy in his fathers eyes (which does fit in with the character in the book), he didn't want the ring, he never tried to separate Frodo from the ring at all. His character didn't change all that much from the books, they just added more scenes with him and had him slower to catch on, that's all. Lets face it if he let the Hobbits go after the waterfall then they were done from the movie, that's it there is nothing more for them for the next hour and a half, the reasons for leaving Shelob out of Two Towers should actually strike true for the book purist crowd, In the book Shelob's Lair happens at the same time as the battle in Gondor, they couldn't have Sam and Frodo looking back from the mountains and seeing a big battle that hadden't taken place yet, the timing was all wrong. So what do you do cut Sam and Frodo out of the last half of the movie? Change the storyline to have them get to Shelob earlier and get slowed down somewhere later? Have the Shelob scenes intercut with the Isengard scenes and the Battle of Helm's deep (how hard would all that of been for people to follow)? I hated the portrayal of Faramir in the Theatrical cut not because he didn't match the book 100% but because he never got fleshed out much at all, he was just a obstical, in the extended version they fixed that, he got real screen time and some real insights. I love Faramir and I'm glad he was in the movie more than the 5 minutes he would of been in it if they had stuck to the book. He didn't change all that much, he never tried to claim the ring or take it from the Hobbits, he never made any push to use it himself or to even look at it, he just wanted to send it to his father and took longer to decide to send them on their way, he was never a villian in any way shape or form, he wasn't all that different in the end than he was in the book, they just dove into what drove him as a character a little more in depth than in the book.  Hey I wish they could of done everything 100% by the book, but that wasn't all that bad a portrayal of him, he was noble and honorable and showed wisdom and strength of character, plus he actually got a little bit of screen time. Man there are so many other fish to fry with changes they made, that one wasn't that bad.</blockquote>

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