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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6697944">The problem with spellcasters is apparently one that WotC approves of and one that it's players like because at this point there's no other explanation for the return of Vancian spellcasting.  We keep seeing the problem, identifying it as a problem but then when someone attempts to do something about it it's like WOTC just made a personal attack against your child's finger painting.  The problem has never been that non-casters lag behind the problem has always been that spellcasters are too far ahead and spells are not properly vetted.Should pets be balanced against spells?  In a way, yes, and I don't think it would be that hard to cover the suite of ranger spells with pet effects.  Would it lag behind?  I think that depends on if players would be willing to tolerate another shot at equality of outcome (a magic beast can detect magic) instead of equality of opportunity (everyone can pick the spell-ranger or shut up and deal) design in D&D again.But again, while the existing class design is OP, this is why I referenced the Summoner.  The important point at this stage I think is that the pet need to be a mini-PC.  To have anything otherwise is to make the pet a waste of time.</blockquote>