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<blockquote data-quote="Arakasius" data-source="post: 7499518" data-attributes="member: 6944960">Well I think a big shelf thing at 5th level is that is when you get your first stat increases. So since that means everyone would get likely 1 more AC from dex at that level and thus would catch up more than just their level progression.Looking at the level 4 characters I pregenerated for when my group made the conversion the Paladin/Fighter had a 20 AC at 4th level. This is with no magic items. But he also was not wearing a shield being a 2h paladin. But yeah with no shield/buffs he's able to be crit on a 15. Shield would bump that up to a 17, buffs up to slightly higher. (probably just 18) Tbh it seems the encounter is just a bit overtuned with regards to level disparity. A similar +2 level encounter was much less threatening at 11th level because of far greater access to abilities/spells to make up for stats being worse as well as much larged health pools for a boss to burn through. I think I would have had to do a +3 level boss to get a similar experience to the manticore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arakasius, post: 7499518, member: 6944960"] Well I think a big shelf thing at 5th level is that is when you get your first stat increases. So since that means everyone would get likely 1 more AC from dex at that level and thus would catch up more than just their level progression. Looking at the level 4 characters I pregenerated for when my group made the conversion the Paladin/Fighter had a 20 AC at 4th level. This is with no magic items. But he also was not wearing a shield being a 2h paladin. But yeah with no shield/buffs he's able to be crit on a 15. Shield would bump that up to a 17, buffs up to slightly higher. (probably just 18) Tbh it seems the encounter is just a bit overtuned with regards to level disparity. A similar +2 level encounter was much less threatening at 11th level because of far greater access to abilities/spells to make up for stats being worse as well as much larged health pools for a boss to burn through. I think I would have had to do a +3 level boss to get a similar experience to the manticore. [/QUOTE]

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