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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7405645" data-attributes="member: 996">It's a better system for a game where casters are attempting to appear balanced with non-casters.&nbsp; It's strictly inferior in the sense that the 5e neo-Vancian caster is in all ways more flexible than the old-school Vancian one - before we even get into at-will cantrips.&nbsp;&nbsp; As opposed to just spontaneously casting any spell on the Cleric or Druid list or absolutely any spell in your spellbook at any time?I guess there's not much of a point, the level of flexibility/versatility (and thus Tier 1 power) is already unprecedented, why not drop that last scrap of a limitation? The only way to go after that to make casters even less limited for D&amp;D 6e or PF3 would be to just have one giant spell list, and let everyone cast spontaneously from it, I guess...&nbsp;It seemed like a big part of the challenge - and thus interest and fun - of playing a magic-user back in the day.&nbsp; It also puts a much greater limitation on the caster classes than have later editions (except, ironically, I guess, for 4e), nor was it the only limitation on casting from the early days that has fallen by the wayside, almost without comment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7405645, member: 996"] It's a better system for a game where casters are attempting to appear balanced with non-casters. It's strictly inferior in the sense that the 5e neo-Vancian caster is in all ways more flexible than the old-school Vancian one - before we even get into at-will cantrips. As opposed to just spontaneously casting any spell on the Cleric or Druid list or absolutely any spell in your spellbook at any time? I guess there's not much of a point, the level of flexibility/versatility (and thus Tier 1 power) is already unprecedented, why not drop that last scrap of a limitation? The only way to go after that to make casters even less limited for D&D 6e or PF3 would be to just have one giant spell list, and let everyone cast spontaneously from it, I guess... It seemed like a big part of the challenge - and thus interest and fun - of playing a magic-user back in the day. It also puts a much greater limitation on the caster classes than have later editions (except, ironically, I guess, for 4e), nor was it the only limitation on casting from the early days that has fallen by the wayside, almost without comment. [/QUOTE]

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