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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7406644" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>The ongoing D&D traditions flourish. At the same time they include difficulties of various kinds. </p><p></p><p>The reason D&D 5e is ‘true’ D&D is because WotC made an extreme effort to find out what the D&D community wanted. WotC designers care about meeting the needs of players. WotC as a corporation made unprecedented outreaches to the D&D community, to discern the needs of D&D players.</p><p></p><p>Seeing 3e, I was so happy at the improvements since 1e. The systematization of AD&D rules was timely. WotC saved the D&D tradition. During 3e, I advocated nonvancian options, then delighted in the 3e (XPH) Psion. Also during 3e, I advocated passionately for balance, especially among player classes. Also balance among ability scores, each of which is a valid archetype to choose from. 4e gave balance, albeit a rigid form of balance. During 4e, I advocated that WotC always ask what the player base wants. Then I saw WotC reaching out to meet the needs of D&D players via attentive designers − and even corporate outreaches to survey what the majority of the D&D community wants − beyond my expectations, even beyond what I thought was plausible for a ‘corporation’ to do. WotC did amazing in regard to the surveys that resulted in D&D 5e.</p><p></p><p>WotC did so many things that I value. For examples, in 5e, the spontaneous Wizard and the full-caster Bard are two classes I advocated for, and I love the 5e versions of them. The 5e Bard is mythologically accurate (or at least mythologically respectful).</p><p></p><p>5e still has desiderata for me. I need to see monotheism be a *normal* option for progressive D&D (and animism and monism, and I appreciate spiritual diversity in general), and I need to see a Charisma elf that is inherently magic, preferably a sun-and-sky-dwelling elf (accurate to Norse world views) − even better this elf be psionic − and I want to see psionics in general that extends from a person’s own consciousness be a normative part of D&D.</p><p></p><p>Despite the fact that there are important aspects that I still need to see, I respect − value − appreciate − WotC and its designers make a remarkable effort to reach the D&D community as a whole.</p><p></p><p>D&D 5e puts me in a position where I have to admit D&D under the facility of WotC makes an honest effort to meet the desires of the majority of D&D players. For certain things (like non-vancian Wizards and full-caster Bards) I am happy to share among the majority. For certain other things (like monotheism, charismatic elf, and psionics) I seem to be in a minority. Even in those places where a minority, I suspect there is room enough in D&D for these options that I care about.</p><p></p><p>In all, I care about D&D reaching the player base. It has and it does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7406644, member: 58172"] The ongoing D&D traditions flourish. At the same time they include difficulties of various kinds. The reason D&D 5e is ‘true’ D&D is because WotC made an extreme effort to find out what the D&D community wanted. WotC designers care about meeting the needs of players. WotC as a corporation made unprecedented outreaches to the D&D community, to discern the needs of D&D players. Seeing 3e, I was so happy at the improvements since 1e. The systematization of AD&D rules was timely. WotC saved the D&D tradition. During 3e, I advocated nonvancian options, then delighted in the 3e (XPH) Psion. Also during 3e, I advocated passionately for balance, especially among player classes. Also balance among ability scores, each of which is a valid archetype to choose from. 4e gave balance, albeit a rigid form of balance. During 4e, I advocated that WotC always ask what the player base wants. Then I saw WotC reaching out to meet the needs of D&D players via attentive designers − and even corporate outreaches to survey what the majority of the D&D community wants − beyond my expectations, even beyond what I thought was plausible for a ‘corporation’ to do. WotC did amazing in regard to the surveys that resulted in D&D 5e. WotC did so many things that I value. For examples, in 5e, the spontaneous Wizard and the full-caster Bard are two classes I advocated for, and I love the 5e versions of them. The 5e Bard is mythologically accurate (or at least mythologically respectful). 5e still has desiderata for me. I need to see monotheism be a *normal* option for progressive D&D (and animism and monism, and I appreciate spiritual diversity in general), and I need to see a Charisma elf that is inherently magic, preferably a sun-and-sky-dwelling elf (accurate to Norse world views) − even better this elf be psionic − and I want to see psionics in general that extends from a person’s own consciousness be a normative part of D&D. Despite the fact that there are important aspects that I still need to see, I respect − value − appreciate − WotC and its designers make a remarkable effort to reach the D&D community as a whole. D&D 5e puts me in a position where I have to admit D&D under the facility of WotC makes an honest effort to meet the desires of the majority of D&D players. For certain things (like non-vancian Wizards and full-caster Bards) I am happy to share among the majority. For certain other things (like monotheism, charismatic elf, and psionics) I seem to be in a minority. Even in those places where a minority, I suspect there is room enough in D&D for these options that I care about. In all, I care about D&D reaching the player base. It has and it does. [/QUOTE]
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