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<blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 7484797" data-attributes="member: 68748"><p>- Weakest rendition of Lay on Hands since AD&D.</p><p>- Hinging so many class feats and the automatic class features you get at higher levels entirely on Retributive Strike steers the Paladin completely into reactive and passive gameplay.</p><p>- Divine Grace requiring a reaction for its save bonus. Eww.</p><p>- The Paladin's Holy Smite class feature not coming until Lv. 9, and only then being based entirely off Retributive Strike.</p><p>- Retributive Strike sucks at even its intended purpose as a defender power. Has no range.</p><p>- Litany powers all suck.</p><p>- Righteous Ally options are all either underwhelming (Blade), situational (Steed) or just plain garbage (Shield).</p><p>- The 20th level class feats are TERRIBLE. Fighters get permanent quickness, spellcasters get 10th-level spells, Paladins get ... keen on their weapon? What a joke.</p><p>- The one feat that looks as if it's meant to be the analog to the PF1 Smite, Blade of Justice, (a) requires a specific Righteous Ally pick, and (b) is EXTREMELY weak.</p><p></p><p>That's just some of the problems. The PF2 Paladin is so awful it makes the 5e Ranger look like a masterpiece of class design by comparison.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gladius Legis, post: 7484797, member: 68748"] - Weakest rendition of Lay on Hands since AD&D. - Hinging so many class feats and the automatic class features you get at higher levels entirely on Retributive Strike steers the Paladin completely into reactive and passive gameplay. - Divine Grace requiring a reaction for its save bonus. Eww. - The Paladin's Holy Smite class feature not coming until Lv. 9, and only then being based entirely off Retributive Strike. - Retributive Strike sucks at even its intended purpose as a defender power. Has no range. - Litany powers all suck. - Righteous Ally options are all either underwhelming (Blade), situational (Steed) or just plain garbage (Shield). - The 20th level class feats are TERRIBLE. Fighters get permanent quickness, spellcasters get 10th-level spells, Paladins get ... keen on their weapon? What a joke. - The one feat that looks as if it's meant to be the analog to the PF1 Smite, Blade of Justice, (a) requires a specific Righteous Ally pick, and (b) is EXTREMELY weak. That's just some of the problems. The PF2 Paladin is so awful it makes the 5e Ranger look like a masterpiece of class design by comparison. [/QUOTE]
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