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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 8394364" data-attributes="member: 90374">Yeah, Fighters, sorcs, and clerics got a raw deal in 3E. PF1 gives some help with human and favored class. I also choose to up those classes to 4+int and take the wiz down to 2+int but thats house rules.A fighter could go the combat expertise route and needs 13 int anyways. Gets you another rank to allow you to invest. They can spend ASI to get better stats to help out. They can take feats to help them out. They can get stat boosting items to help them out. They can use spells to buff to help them out. Point is in the past there was choices you could make to invest in skills. Thats gone and you aint gonna diversify your stats in PF2, it would suicide to do so. So you're stuck taking one of a couple different stat arrays, 1-3 different class paths, and then a small list of skills you can take along as you level up. Somethings might help like multiclassing or free archetype, but its still limited and forces you out of your class temporarily. Kind of stifling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="payn, post: 8394364, member: 90374"] Yeah, Fighters, sorcs, and clerics got a raw deal in 3E. PF1 gives some help with human and favored class. I also choose to up those classes to 4+int and take the wiz down to 2+int but thats house rules. A fighter could go the combat expertise route and needs 13 int anyways. Gets you another rank to allow you to invest. They can spend ASI to get better stats to help out. They can take feats to help them out. They can get stat boosting items to help them out. They can use spells to buff to help them out. Point is in the past there was choices you could make to invest in skills. Thats gone and you aint gonna diversify your stats in PF2, it would suicide to do so. So you're stuck taking one of a couple different stat arrays, 1-3 different class paths, and then a small list of skills you can take along as you level up. Somethings might help like multiclassing or free archetype, but its still limited and forces you out of your class temporarily. Kind of stifling. [/QUOTE]

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