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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8418658" data-attributes="member: 6778210">You don't need to be Legendary at everything to get what you need. Master is enough unless you really desire a Legendary-level feat, if you want to go by the numbers.Which is why you can consistently beat a Master-level rating without any extra training, like being told the "Oh, I thought this was my pocket" excuse one day and then by the end of your career you can basically pickpocket all but the most perceptive of creatures consistently without ever learning anything else.I'll point out that 20th level creatures aren't the same as a CR20, which can be made up of multiple lower-level creatures. I much more consistently tossed CR0 and CR-1 creatures in groups, punctuated by the occasional CR 1 creature to start out.And your characters are widely competent. The idea that only at-level challenges prove competence misses that over time you gain a ton of options over time that are way more generally applicable. Yes, you are able to do more with 1st level challenges... but also those successes are way more limited. Once you get into the DC20-30 range, that's where the most useful and common big challenges lie. The ultra-specialized are things that shouldn't be just tossed out, but focus points for your specialists. By merely being trained in something at 20th level you can absolutely due some crazy stuff for minimal investment.I dunno if that's for me. If you've put nothing into a skill from start, over time it should be come less effective if you don't upgrade it as challenges get more difficult. The way it's done in PF2 works well enough for having minimal paperwork, while still also allowing you to use that skill effectively. No, you won't take on leveled challenges, but as time goes on you still get to do more and more; just tunnel-visioning on only the top challenges misses all the things you can do besides those.PF2 has a habit of making things slightly more difficult relative to what came before; it's why leveled checks your secondary stuff generally loses a little bit of effectiveness over time. You're expected to have stuff to mitigate that, like spell buffs, talismans, skills, teamwork, etc, to make up for that.If I were to give a fix, [USER=907]@Staffan[/USER] , you might want to have automatic upgrade point at certain levels. For example, once you reach 10th level all skills that were Trained upgrade to Expert, and at 17th all skills get raised to Master if they weren't already. You're paying skill ranks to be better in your specialty at that time, and once the rest of your skills catch up you can further upgrade and specialize as needed. It's not really for me, but it might work out for you.</blockquote>

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