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<blockquote data-quote="JmanTheDM" data-source="post: 8235099" data-attributes="member: 6791902"><p>I'm a total newb here. I've had a membership for years but really only lurked on the main page until PF2 came along - where I started dipping, very tepidly into online chat. honestly, my contributions were more centered around (Save for a couple obviously sarcastic ones) "if Jman were seeing these threads for the first time, what would I think", and offering a counter argument that was slightly more positive in light and tone for the lurkers.</p><p></p><p>One would certainly get a sense that things were bad, if you only read the PF2 forum posters here.</p><p></p><p>I have never gotten the sense that there is a clique to break into. nor have I gotten a sense that enworld (in particular) for PF2 discourse is a wide-open expansive landscape of Newbs entering and discussing. its a small group of passionate people (on both sides of any argument), who have over years created a kind of "culture". </p><p></p><p>I honestly don't even know what "gatekeeping" means in the context of PF2 and enworld. pushback - yeah, I see that. some with hardened defenses (perhaps due to years of online?), but I'm not experiencing any "go away, this is my game" attitude?</p><p></p><p>but if there is and due to my own blindspots I'm contributing to a feeling of exclusion, I apologize. I'd LOVE to have more meaningful conversations around here except for the BORING on-going talks about a) how PF2 is "broken" and b) how PF2 caused Paizo to collapse as a company.</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p><p></p><p>J.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JmanTheDM, post: 8235099, member: 6791902"] I'm a total newb here. I've had a membership for years but really only lurked on the main page until PF2 came along - where I started dipping, very tepidly into online chat. honestly, my contributions were more centered around (Save for a couple obviously sarcastic ones) "if Jman were seeing these threads for the first time, what would I think", and offering a counter argument that was slightly more positive in light and tone for the lurkers. One would certainly get a sense that things were bad, if you only read the PF2 forum posters here. I have never gotten the sense that there is a clique to break into. nor have I gotten a sense that enworld (in particular) for PF2 discourse is a wide-open expansive landscape of Newbs entering and discussing. its a small group of passionate people (on both sides of any argument), who have over years created a kind of "culture". I honestly don't even know what "gatekeeping" means in the context of PF2 and enworld. pushback - yeah, I see that. some with hardened defenses (perhaps due to years of online?), but I'm not experiencing any "go away, this is my game" attitude? but if there is and due to my own blindspots I'm contributing to a feeling of exclusion, I apologize. I'd LOVE to have more meaningful conversations around here except for the BORING on-going talks about a) how PF2 is "broken" and b) how PF2 caused Paizo to collapse as a company. Cheers, J. [/QUOTE]
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