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<blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 4999815" data-attributes="member: 5948">I confess myself a little underwhelmed to be honest.The Cavalier seems passably solid for what it does (any mounted combat character absolutely needs a special mount to be viable at higher levels, and it's good to see Paizo acknowledge this).&nbsp; It's still fairly specialised though - the Cavalier is going to be want to be mounted all the time, which makes dungeons difficult and frustrating and certain other environments an issue.&nbsp; Perhaps a genuine non-rogue swashbuckler would have been a better option for this niche?&nbsp; The cavalier could have imho been completely replaced by a couple of feat chains for the benefit of the fighter and/or paladin with no great loss.Also, is the Cavalier the 'alternate alignment paladin' we've been hearing about, or is that yet to come?I found the Oracle disappointing - I guess I was expecting 'domain specialist' who accumulated weird themed powers related to their focus and had a cleric domains or two as an afterthought, rather than a 'divine sorceror' whose main tools are the same spells than any old cleric gets.&nbsp; Still, in retrospect I can see perfectly well how expecting the introduction of a zillion new powers was simply unrealistic from a page-count point of view.&nbsp; A few new focii and I might be able to get more into it.&nbsp; Love the idea of some of the curses being less physical and more metaphysical though.I dunno, it just seems a tad unexciting on the whole.&nbsp; Just more ways of getting very similar abilities.&nbsp; Maybe the witch and/or alchemist will do it for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="humble minion, post: 4999815, member: 5948"] I confess myself a little underwhelmed to be honest. The Cavalier seems passably solid for what it does (any mounted combat character absolutely needs a special mount to be viable at higher levels, and it's good to see Paizo acknowledge this). It's still fairly specialised though - the Cavalier is going to be want to be mounted all the time, which makes dungeons difficult and frustrating and certain other environments an issue. Perhaps a genuine non-rogue swashbuckler would have been a better option for this niche? The cavalier could have imho been completely replaced by a couple of feat chains for the benefit of the fighter and/or paladin with no great loss. Also, is the Cavalier the 'alternate alignment paladin' we've been hearing about, or is that yet to come? I found the Oracle disappointing - I guess I was expecting 'domain specialist' who accumulated weird themed powers related to their focus and had a cleric domains or two as an afterthought, rather than a 'divine sorceror' whose main tools are the same spells than any old cleric gets. Still, in retrospect I can see perfectly well how expecting the introduction of a zillion new powers was simply unrealistic from a page-count point of view. A few new focii and I might be able to get more into it. Love the idea of some of the curses being less physical and more metaphysical though. I dunno, it just seems a tad unexciting on the whole. Just more ways of getting very similar abilities. Maybe the witch and/or alchemist will do it for me. [/QUOTE]

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