Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Phandelver starting to show up in the wild. NewbieDM looks to be the first!
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9115932" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That was once true, long, long ago. Humans haven't been the most popular race in WoW for like, a long time. Maybe 10 years? Or 15? Longer? I think it was in WotLK or Cataclysm that Blood Elves overtook them both as % of their side and literal hard numbers.</p><p></p><p>So that hasn't been true for a very long time. The only really "mundane" starting areas were the human, dwarf (and for a long time gnome), orc (and for a long time troll - though their replacement starting zone was mundane too) and tauren starting zones.</p><p></p><p>All other races with actual starting zones got pretty dramatic ones, albeit some were a lot "quieter" than others. As someone who has played way too much WoW please be aware I can make this case in painful detail but am refraining from doing so lol.</p><p></p><p>And for the last 3 years, by default everyone starts in Exile's Reach, which a pretty dramatic starting zone which fully introduces you to ideas in WoW in a way previous ones didn't (including a dungeon, boss fights, etc.) - experienced players can opt to pick the old zones still though.</p><p></p><p>Indeed, the idea that the Night Elf starting zone is "mundane" is absolutely wild. You're in the branches of a World-Tree, with giant ents walking around, and witness to all sorts of magic. The human starting zone was genuinely mundane, but most were not (at least by the start of TBC, let alone later).</p><p></p><p>The most popular race, the Blood Elves, started in fantastical elven ruins, dealing with scary malfunctioning magic killbots, magic elementals, magic crack addicts (as it were), and so on, and really equally defies any designation as mundane.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9115932, member: 18"] That was once true, long, long ago. Humans haven't been the most popular race in WoW for like, a long time. Maybe 10 years? Or 15? Longer? I think it was in WotLK or Cataclysm that Blood Elves overtook them both as % of their side and literal hard numbers. So that hasn't been true for a very long time. The only really "mundane" starting areas were the human, dwarf (and for a long time gnome), orc (and for a long time troll - though their replacement starting zone was mundane too) and tauren starting zones. All other races with actual starting zones got pretty dramatic ones, albeit some were a lot "quieter" than others. As someone who has played way too much WoW please be aware I can make this case in painful detail but am refraining from doing so lol. And for the last 3 years, by default everyone starts in Exile's Reach, which a pretty dramatic starting zone which fully introduces you to ideas in WoW in a way previous ones didn't (including a dungeon, boss fights, etc.) - experienced players can opt to pick the old zones still though. Indeed, the idea that the Night Elf starting zone is "mundane" is absolutely wild. You're in the branches of a World-Tree, with giant ents walking around, and witness to all sorts of magic. The human starting zone was genuinely mundane, but most were not (at least by the start of TBC, let alone later). The most popular race, the Blood Elves, started in fantastical elven ruins, dealing with scary malfunctioning magic killbots, magic elementals, magic crack addicts (as it were), and so on, and really equally defies any designation as mundane. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Phandelver starting to show up in the wild. NewbieDM looks to be the first!
Top