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<blockquote data-quote="thethain" data-source="post: 7195432" data-attributes="member: 6874561"><p>I appreciate the vigor of defending your argument when faced with quotes from the phb to the contrary. And in your home game you can use whatever rules you like.</p><p></p><p>However, Mounts are their own creatures, whose initiate is changed to match yours when you take control of them. A mount using its movement doesn't use the rider's movement.</p><p></p><p>Here is Jeremy Stating that a mount uses ITS OWN action to disengage, dodge, or dash.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/06/18/does-a-controlled-mount-use-its-own-action-to-dash-disengage-or-dodge/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/06/18/does-a-controlled-mount-use-its-own-action-to-dash-disengage-or-dodge/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/controlled-mount/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/controlled-mount/</a></p><p></p><p>And here is Jeremy stating that the rider is being carried by another creature's movement (IE not his own)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/06/09/mount-disengage/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/06/09/mount-disengage/</a></p><p></p><p>It is also important to know that even tho the initiative is the same, it is still a different creatures, so complex interactions, such as the mount moving, the player attacking, and then the mount moving away, is not strictly RAW legal. Because you have to determine if the horse or rider is going first in initiative.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/05/24/rider-on-controlled-mount-wants-to-attack-mid-move-do-rider-and-mount-share-one-turn/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/05/24/rider-on-controlled-mount-wants-to-attack-mid-move-do-rider-and-mount-share-one-turn/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>I apologize if I was needlessly confrontational in my earlier post, my emphasis was to prevent disinformation from being spread. You need to understand that a mount and rider in DnD 5e are two separate creatures and interact with the game as such. The mount is just under the rider's control. It still has its own movement, actions, hp, and possible ongoing effects. The rider is just along for the ride.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thethain, post: 7195432, member: 6874561"] I appreciate the vigor of defending your argument when faced with quotes from the phb to the contrary. And in your home game you can use whatever rules you like. However, Mounts are their own creatures, whose initiate is changed to match yours when you take control of them. A mount using its movement doesn't use the rider's movement. Here is Jeremy Stating that a mount uses ITS OWN action to disengage, dodge, or dash. [url]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/06/18/does-a-controlled-mount-use-its-own-action-to-dash-disengage-or-dodge/[/url] [url]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/controlled-mount/[/url] And here is Jeremy stating that the rider is being carried by another creature's movement (IE not his own) [url]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/06/09/mount-disengage/[/url] It is also important to know that even tho the initiative is the same, it is still a different creatures, so complex interactions, such as the mount moving, the player attacking, and then the mount moving away, is not strictly RAW legal. Because you have to determine if the horse or rider is going first in initiative. [url]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/05/24/rider-on-controlled-mount-wants-to-attack-mid-move-do-rider-and-mount-share-one-turn/[/url] I apologize if I was needlessly confrontational in my earlier post, my emphasis was to prevent disinformation from being spread. You need to understand that a mount and rider in DnD 5e are two separate creatures and interact with the game as such. The mount is just under the rider's control. It still has its own movement, actions, hp, and possible ongoing effects. The rider is just along for the ride. [/QUOTE]
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