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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 4751496" data-attributes="member: 78">An Avenger gets his attribute bonus to all his melee powers, yes.  A ranger will usually be getting his attribute bonus more than once, since ranger encounter and daily powers (ie, basically everything but Twin Strike) generally hit multiple times with full attribute bonuses on each.  Attribute and weapon bonuses several times > the same bonuses once.DracoSuave above goes over Twin Strike versus Avenger attacks, to the ranger's advantage.Who does more peak damage?  The ranger, because of the possibility of double hits.  Especially when you start to consider situations not centered around 50% hit chance.  Providing a ranger with an attack bonus (Righteous Brand, Warlord's Favor, etc, or debuffs to the target's defenses) can significantly boost his damage.  While not exactly maxed out, the Avenger benefits less from those effects.  And it's harder to set up bonuses for the Avenger, since the positioning restriction on the Oath can make it more difficult to gain CA.  The ranger with buffs will shred things, while the Avenger isn't doing much more than normal.  So, even assuming a generous parity in damage between the characters normally, the ranger ought to be pulling ahead if the rest of the group is working.  Plus melee rangers have an AC debuffing power of their own, even if they can't get help.There's a reason that many Avenger builds in CO are all about using Avenger powers as little as possible - they're just not that great.  It takes a lot for the Avenger to compare with fairly conventional rangers.</blockquote>

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