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<blockquote data-quote="Intense_Interest" data-source="post: 4756244" data-attributes="member: 65904"><p>So we're watering down the conclusion down to "in situations where BRV is not optimal, it isn't optimal"? Doesn't say much for how "overpowered" the feature is- because in my experience, a STR/WIS fighter does much more to keep the party alive than a BRV twinky Fighter, simply because of how many OAs are missed because of the extra points in CON.</p><p></p><p>"Typically", it will specifically occur once every 20 OA attacks, and more like once every 4 or 5 when you consider the ease of access to feats like Heavy Blade Opportunity and otherwise, in an optimal Sticky-Fighter build. </p><p></p><p>And BRV fighters are the exact kind of Non-Sticky fighters it is easier to move around. If the DM doesn't slide around the Fighter to give the squishy caster a few more death saves, you're really not playing the combat as challenging as it means to be.</p><p></p><p>(Bolding mine)</p><p></p><p>So intelligent monsters aren't able to use logic that somehow this Dwarf Thug is not even being effected by their attacks? It doesn't need to be a definitive instant reaction to understand that THPs are being stacked like cordwood. </p><p></p><p>BRV is pretty much as obvious as you can get with a class's ability for a Fighter. Goblins figure out that the Wizard has a Shield spell from the staff in my campaign because it is <em>obvious</em>. It is just as obvious that no actual damage is being done to a BRV Fighter, because anything else would be ignoring the game-state as-is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Intense_Interest, post: 4756244, member: 65904"] So we're watering down the conclusion down to "in situations where BRV is not optimal, it isn't optimal"? Doesn't say much for how "overpowered" the feature is- because in my experience, a STR/WIS fighter does much more to keep the party alive than a BRV twinky Fighter, simply because of how many OAs are missed because of the extra points in CON. "Typically", it will specifically occur once every 20 OA attacks, and more like once every 4 or 5 when you consider the ease of access to feats like Heavy Blade Opportunity and otherwise, in an optimal Sticky-Fighter build. And BRV fighters are the exact kind of Non-Sticky fighters it is easier to move around. If the DM doesn't slide around the Fighter to give the squishy caster a few more death saves, you're really not playing the combat as challenging as it means to be. (Bolding mine) So intelligent monsters aren't able to use logic that somehow this Dwarf Thug is not even being effected by their attacks? It doesn't need to be a definitive instant reaction to understand that THPs are being stacked like cordwood. BRV is pretty much as obvious as you can get with a class's ability for a Fighter. Goblins figure out that the Wizard has a Shield spell from the staff in my campaign because it is [I]obvious[/I]. It is just as obvious that no actual damage is being done to a BRV Fighter, because anything else would be ignoring the game-state as-is. [/QUOTE]
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