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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4756263" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Your experience is anecdotal.</p><p></p><p>My experience with a BRV Fighter (compared to several other Fighters) is the exact opposite. Most people who have posted experience with a BRV Fighter have agreed with my anecdotal experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The BRV Fighter can get those feats as well. So, it is still one in 20 attacks.</p><p></p><p>Take a Fighter with a CON of at least 12. Swap out +1 to hit with BRV. Everything else is the same.</p><p></p><p>The BRV Fighter wins in the long run. He lasts longer and saves on resources. He misses one attack in 20. But, he has an entire group to make up that single successful attack (i.e. the encounter might last a fraction of a round longer, woo hoo).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nonsense. Both Fighters are equally as sticky. They both mark. They both threaten their foes with their marks.</p><p></p><p>Only if the DM is metagaming numbers does a foe bypass the BRV Fighter's mark and not do so for the +1 Fighter's mark.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What THPs are those? How does the monster see them? With its X-Ray vision through the Dwarf's armor?</p><p></p><p>And, who said the BRV Fighter had to be a Dwarf?</p><p></p><p>How does the monster know the difference between a BRV Fighter and a +1 Fighter that is simply several levels higher? How does the monster know the difference between a BRV Fighter and a +1 Fighter with Toughness?</p><p></p><p>The monster has never met the Fighter. It does not automatically know why the Fighter can take a beating and keep standing.</p><p></p><p>You are just making up this stuff about monsters knowing about THPs out of the blue. The rules do not state this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Quote a rule.</p><p></p><p>This is a rules forum.</p><p></p><p>Opinion is fine, but quote a rule for such silliness.</p><p></p><p>Hit point damage is not actual damage in 4E anyway. It is easily recovered within minutes without any magic at all. The only time it is actual damage is when the PC dies. Otherwise, it's just some form of exhaustion, minor nicks, or some other pseudo non-actual damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The only thing the Goblins know is that after hitting this guy a lot of times, he's real tough. Nothing more. Nothing less. Duh!</p><p></p><p>What are your goblins, psychic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4756263, member: 2011"] Your experience is anecdotal. My experience with a BRV Fighter (compared to several other Fighters) is the exact opposite. Most people who have posted experience with a BRV Fighter have agreed with my anecdotal experience. The BRV Fighter can get those feats as well. So, it is still one in 20 attacks. Take a Fighter with a CON of at least 12. Swap out +1 to hit with BRV. Everything else is the same. The BRV Fighter wins in the long run. He lasts longer and saves on resources. He misses one attack in 20. But, he has an entire group to make up that single successful attack (i.e. the encounter might last a fraction of a round longer, woo hoo). Nonsense. Both Fighters are equally as sticky. They both mark. They both threaten their foes with their marks. Only if the DM is metagaming numbers does a foe bypass the BRV Fighter's mark and not do so for the +1 Fighter's mark. What THPs are those? How does the monster see them? With its X-Ray vision through the Dwarf's armor? And, who said the BRV Fighter had to be a Dwarf? How does the monster know the difference between a BRV Fighter and a +1 Fighter that is simply several levels higher? How does the monster know the difference between a BRV Fighter and a +1 Fighter with Toughness? The monster has never met the Fighter. It does not automatically know why the Fighter can take a beating and keep standing. You are just making up this stuff about monsters knowing about THPs out of the blue. The rules do not state this. Quote a rule. This is a rules forum. Opinion is fine, but quote a rule for such silliness. Hit point damage is not actual damage in 4E anyway. It is easily recovered within minutes without any magic at all. The only time it is actual damage is when the PC dies. Otherwise, it's just some form of exhaustion, minor nicks, or some other pseudo non-actual damage. The only thing the Goblins know is that after hitting this guy a lot of times, he's real tough. Nothing more. Nothing less. Duh! What are your goblins, psychic? [/QUOTE]
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