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<blockquote data-quote="TheNovaLord" data-source="post: 4756505" data-attributes="member: 31097">Hmm. strange that. My dwarf warlock is currently 7th level. He is impressed by the damage the elf ranger does, but as he does more than the party fighter and paladin, he is happy. I get more irked that having +11 to hit seems not enuff rather than doing 2d8+d6+10 damage isnt enough!!&nbsp;I think one person in our group owns a PHB2, but nothing has been used from it yet. Is the sorceror genuinely more powerful than the warlock given the warlock targets a wide range of defences with a range of damage flavours?&nbsp;It seems folks are saying that PHB2 at wills have more 'effect' stuff and in general roles are what WOTC originally envisaged maybe its not power creep, but power catch-up as PHB2 is now the baseline from the off?&nbsp;maybe one benefit of playing an unsupported system is that you have all the stuff from the off, so no creep can occur.&nbsp;anyway good discussion for someone like me who dont own it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheNovaLord, post: 4756505, member: 31097"] Hmm. strange that. My dwarf warlock is currently 7th level. He is impressed by the damage the elf ranger does, but as he does more than the party fighter and paladin, he is happy. I get more irked that having +11 to hit seems not enuff rather than doing 2d8+d6+10 damage isnt enough!! I think one person in our group owns a PHB2, but nothing has been used from it yet. Is the sorceror genuinely more powerful than the warlock given the warlock targets a wide range of defences with a range of damage flavours? It seems folks are saying that PHB2 at wills have more 'effect' stuff and in general roles are what WOTC originally envisaged maybe its not power creep, but power catch-up as PHB2 is now the baseline from the off? maybe one benefit of playing an unsupported system is that you have all the stuff from the off, so no creep can occur. anyway good discussion for someone like me who dont own it. [/QUOTE]

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