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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4868272" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I feel putting magical items in the PHB (instead of the DMG) is a good change. </p><p></p><p>For players, that is - it means they only need one book (called the Player's Handbook, duh).</p><p></p><p>More controversial is the meager selection of items. Handing out only the bare-bones items in the PHB and selling the rest in AV is a money-grubbing scheme pure and simple. </p><p></p><p>However, I still like that the PHB stuff exists, and is decidedly vanilla. This allows me to hand out Enchant Magic Item rituals and the players can create (or buy) whatever from the PHB. The magic item economy along with the fact that nearly all CharOp recommendations come from AV (which I keep from my players) is great.</p><p></p><p>So in the end my answer is:</p><p></p><p>I like the PHB magic items just as they are, but I would have wanted a second helping of items in the DMG to make the selection of PHB-DMG-MM items much more "complete". (The AV could still contain lots of the more exotic stuff, not to mention the broken, selling-to-powergamers stuff).</p><p></p><p>Dividing items between PHB and DMG would also send a strong message along the lines of "just because you have the ritual doesn't mean you're entitled to select stuff from just about every book you purchase". The ritual would be truly great if it explicitly said "you can create PHB items of your level as well as any other item (such as from the DMG) with your DMs permission only." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 4868272, member: 12731"] I feel putting magical items in the PHB (instead of the DMG) is a good change. For players, that is - it means they only need one book (called the Player's Handbook, duh). More controversial is the meager selection of items. Handing out only the bare-bones items in the PHB and selling the rest in AV is a money-grubbing scheme pure and simple. However, I still like that the PHB stuff exists, and is decidedly vanilla. This allows me to hand out Enchant Magic Item rituals and the players can create (or buy) whatever from the PHB. The magic item economy along with the fact that nearly all CharOp recommendations come from AV (which I keep from my players) is great. So in the end my answer is: I like the PHB magic items just as they are, but I would have wanted a second helping of items in the DMG to make the selection of PHB-DMG-MM items much more "complete". (The AV could still contain lots of the more exotic stuff, not to mention the broken, selling-to-powergamers stuff). Dividing items between PHB and DMG would also send a strong message along the lines of "just because you have the ritual doesn't mean you're entitled to select stuff from just about every book you purchase". The ritual would be truly great if it explicitly said "you can create PHB items of your level as well as any other item (such as from the DMG) with your DMs permission only." :) [/QUOTE]
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