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<blockquote data-quote="Silvergriffon" data-source="post: 4068075" data-attributes="member: 58431">wingsandsword - So, OD&amp;D is nothing more than a footnote that should be ignored, but &quot;4th Edition is about intentionally turning its back on the history and traditions of the game.&quot; No contradiction there at all. For many of us, OD&amp;D is no mere footnote. It is the establishment of the feel of D&amp;D. Everything since then is merely new rules and mechanics. The identity of D&amp;D begins in its roots, from which all its history and traditions have grown. A D&amp;D player who has never experienced a game that invokes the feeling of OD&amp;D is like a music lover who has never heard live music, only CDs.Many of those races and classes you listed can be said to have existed in all prior editions since AD&amp;D, but certainly not &quot;in the core of every prior edition&quot;. The latter is patently false.SSquirrel - Yes, it was nitpicky to the point of absurdity. But, only to call attention to the fallacy of claiming that all those things existed in &quot;every prior edition&quot;. Please pardon my sarcasm. It got away from me a little bit there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Silvergriffon, post: 4068075, member: 58431"] wingsandsword - So, OD&D is nothing more than a footnote that should be ignored, but "4th Edition is about intentionally turning its back on the history and traditions of the game." No contradiction there at all. For many of us, OD&D is no mere footnote. It is the establishment of the [I]feel[/I] of D&D. Everything since then is merely new rules and mechanics. The identity of D&D begins in its roots, from which all its history and traditions have grown. A D&D player who has never experienced a game that invokes the feeling of OD&D is like a music lover who has never heard live music, only CDs. Many of those races and classes you listed can be said to have existed in all prior editions [I]since AD&D[/I], but certainly not "in the core of every prior edition". The latter is patently false. SSquirrel - Yes, it was nitpicky to the point of absurdity. But, only to call attention to the fallacy of claiming that all those things existed in "every prior edition". Please pardon my sarcasm. It got away from me a little bit there. [/QUOTE]

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