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<blockquote data-quote="Nahat Anoj" data-source="post: 4069217" data-attributes="member: 25075">I believe that the only classes D&amp;D really needs are Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, and Wizard. and the only races D&amp;D really needs are Humans, Elves, Dwarves, and Halflings.&nbsp; The rest is basically gravy - I would be satisfied if this is all there was.&nbsp; But, I find the race and class list of 4e to be very intriguing and am looking forward to trying out all the combinations.Having said that, I will miss the Barbarian, Monk, Druid, Bard, and Gnome from the first PHB.&nbsp; While they might appear in future PHBs, there is something special about being in the first one.&nbsp; I feel like they have become part of D&amp;D's pantheon of core races and classes and deserve a place in the first PHB.&nbsp; I'm not angry about it - they are just conspicuous by their absence.&nbsp; I think though that the race and class selection in the first 4e PHB is really the best one.&nbsp; It stays essentially true to what D&amp;D has been about practically forever (with old standbies like Dwarf, Fighter, and Wizard) but it also showcases how the game is different, from both flavor and game mechanics perspectives (Tieflings, Warlocks, Dragonborn, Warlords).&nbsp; So all in all it's a nice mix of old and new.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nahat Anoj, post: 4069217, member: 25075"] I believe that the only classes D&D really needs are Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, and Wizard. and the only races D&D really needs are Humans, Elves, Dwarves, and Halflings. The rest is basically gravy - I would be satisfied if this is all there was. But, I find the race and class list of 4e to be very intriguing and am looking forward to trying out all the combinations. Having said that, I will miss the Barbarian, Monk, Druid, Bard, and Gnome from the first PHB. While they might appear in future PHBs, there is something special about being in the first one. I feel like they have become part of D&D's pantheon of core races and classes and deserve a place in the first PHB. I'm not angry about it - they are just conspicuous by their absence. I think though that the race and class selection in the first 4e PHB is really the best one. It stays essentially true to what D&D has been about practically forever (with old standbies like Dwarf, Fighter, and Wizard) but it also showcases how the game is different, from both flavor and game mechanics perspectives (Tieflings, Warlocks, Dragonborn, Warlords). So all in all it's a nice mix of old and new. [/QUOTE]

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